in looking for references to costin's remarks about revolution, i found <url:http://jakarta.apache.org/site/proposal.html>. i don't know if that's the document from which he was working, but it's an interesting read nonetheless.
however, there is one section that i think needs clarification. under the pmc membership section, > The Chair or any member may be removed from the PMC by a > super-majority vote of the PMC members. that is only partially possible. the chair of a pmc can *not* be removed by anyone except the asf board of directors, because the chair has the board-delegated legal authority over and responsibility for the project. the pmc (or anyone, for that matter) may petition the board for removal/change of a chair, but it does not have the power to make the change itself.
