Nice url : http://nbbuild.netbeans.org/scrambler.html I mailed Jesse Glick for more information btw..
Mvgr, Martin > -----Original Message----- > From: Sam Ruby [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 15:14 > To: community@apache.org > Subject: Re: build systems vs. license issues [Re: Hashing it out ...] > > > Santiago Gala wrote: > > Torsten Curdt wrote: > > (...) > > > >> ..the only drawback is that the distributions are not self-contained > >> and not compile-able out-of-the-box. > > > > Be sure to blame the approprite culprit, so that user frustratin does > > not stand on us. Like "company XXX forbids us to bundle a essential > > component because of licensing issues. Please go to <url>, download it > > and put it here". > > +1 > > > OTOH, one of the main problems is Sun Binary License. This license > > *allows* redistribution with our products, just it does not allow > > individual download. So the problem is mainly for *new* developers, > > having more errors and steeper learning curve. > > +1 > > > A nice workaround for Sun's jars would be to have a software release > > called "external_dependency_solver", where several or those jars could > > be bundled, together with version checking and some documentation. This > > would be aimed to developers, as part of the "Apache Java toolkit" > > > > Hei, experts, would this make a way out of this? Is it twisting things > > too much? > > This is twisting things too much. I am aware of other dicussions > outside the scope of Apache. In those discussions on other topics, the > crucial question is one of "value add". > > > On the other side, negotiating exemptions or rewording of licenses is > > good, but it is a heavy and difficult path. > > > > It's sad, but we want to play by the rules until we manage to change > > them ;-) > > +1 > > > Regards, > > Santiago > > - Sam Ruby > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
