El mar, 05-10-2004 a las 09:45 +0900, Tetsuya Kitahata escribiÃ: > Hi, > > > Thanks for posting the clarification - which would puts me in favor of > > Felipe Leme's suggestion for a private list for committers. > > > > Steve. > > +1 -- I'm in favor, too. >
What would be the advantages? - I will not use even [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] for any truly confidential issue. Lists with 130+ people inside are nos trustable WRT confidentiality (1300+ people would be almost guarantee of fast filtration). OTOH, having a restricted but public list is beneficial for the community as a whole (people can observe how we do operate from the outside) and reduces "bad" behavior (people will feel ashamed about certain messages and will refrain for sending them knowing that they will be archived). There are only a few restricted lists in the ASF: - pmc lists - members - board - fundraising, press and concom and all those lists are open to all members (130+ currently and growing). The reason why those are confidential is because there are value judgement about people occasionally. Also, in some cases, discussions about the behavior of other companies or group which, while not beeing exactly confidential, people would rather not make in a public forum. A list "private" to 1300 people is not confidential no matter how you look at it, so the only reason that I can see to make it a private list would be for participants to avoid getting ashamed about "bad" behavior in public. If this is indeed the reason, I'm strongly -1. If it is not, I would like someone to explain me the benefits of having a "private" list with 1300 subscribers. This discussion, BTW, is almost the same as the one that other people listed, just before ApacheCON 2002, which ended with community being restricted to post but archived. I would vote completely open, and in fact I offered myself as a relay for any non-committer wanted to expose ideas in the [email protected] list, and I do it again. (I reserve the right to not relay anything which scores over 5 in my spamassassin setting :-P ) > Suggestion: > > "world at apache dot org" > world does not fit well with a closed list. If it got approved (and I'm against it) I would rather choose a different name. > Regards -- Santiago Gala <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> High Sierra Technology, SLU
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