Mike has it right, it's a trademark thing. But please kill this thread here, it goes to ask or commmitters and for most this will be considered noise. Correct list for further discussion is d...@community.apache.org
Sent from my mobile device, please forgive errors and brevity. On Dec 29, 2011 4:17 PM, "Mike Kienenberger" <mkien...@gmail.com> wrote: > I am not an official Apache member, but here's my take on it. > > The Extras project area is for projects related to Apache, but not in > any way managed by the Apache Software Foundation. Because of that, > it may not use the Apache brand-name, trademarks, nor the "org.apache" > namespace. > > Consider Apache Extras to be more of an unofficial fan site of Apache. > > If someone (in this case, you) wants to create something that directly > interacts or is related to Apache OODT, this non-related site gives > you a place to put it where other Apache OODT users are more likely to > find it. But how the project is managed is up to you, and the > ownership of the project and its assets remains with you. > > > On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 8:49 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) > <chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote: > > Hey Guys, > > > > I was reading [1] and I noticed item 3.1 and 3.2 stating that projects > at Extras shouldn't > > use the org.apache namespace (e.g., if Java), and they shouldn't use the > apache project > > name in their extras name. I find this kind of odd. > > > > Here's my concrete situation. Over in Apache OODT ville, I've got 2 > plugins for our PushPull > > system that pulls down remote file content from sites and downloads > them. The 2 plugins > > are Java plugins that integrate libraries that are LGPL licensed. I > can't include these plugins > > in Apache OODT as part of PushPull even though we use the plugins > extensively on > > projects where we deploy OODT and they are better FTP plugins than > existing friendly (to ALv2) > > licensed projects. So, given the choice of simply keeping the code > housed in our internal > > JPL SVN and being unable to more broadly share it, I decided to throw up > a project on > > Extras called oodt-pushpull-plugins, and throw the code up there. I > however did this before > > reading [1] and am now worried I'm in violation of 3.1 and 3.2 because I > used org.apache.oodt.cas.pushpull > > as the namespace for my java package and I used oodt all over my code > (which I licensed > > under ALv2 FWIW, here [2]). FWIW also, the only folks I would expect to > work on > > [2] would be OODT PMC members, myself so far, and Brian Foster who are > folks > > who work on PushPull. > > > > So I'm wondering what's up with 3.1 and 3.2. Isn't the use of similar > project names precisely > > what we want at Extras? And what's the harm in allowing projects to use > org.apache.oodt > > in their namespace over there? That won't confuse people IMHO, because > I'm not to > > publish to Maven Central (and wouldn't want to -- I'd want folks to > download this library > > independently and mvn install it locally, and instructed folks to do so > on [3]) and because > > we will make it clear with documentation on our Wiki (that I was just > about to write but > > will hold off on until I hear the result of this thread) that the code > at oodt-pushpull-plugins > > on Apache Extras is *not* Apache OODT. > > > > Comments back would be appreciated. Ross told me that ComDev is charged > with > > Apache Extras so that's why I'm asking here. > > > > Cheers, > > Chris > > > > [1] http://community.apache.org/apache-extras/guidelines.html > > [2] http://code.google.com/a/apache-extras.org/p/oodt-pushpull-plugins/ > > [3] http://s.apache.org/8FB > > > > > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > Chris Mattmann, Ph.D. > > Senior Computer Scientist > > NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA > > Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246 > > Email: chris.a.mattm...@nasa.gov > > WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/ > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department > > University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: community-unsubscr...@apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: community-h...@apache.org > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: community-unsubscr...@apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: community-h...@apache.org > >
