Salve! Some stimulation, especialy for those who didn't use Debian (daily), and those who can't wait to get a Neo1973 - in this email:
1. Linksys NAS NSLU2 (ARM CPU) is now officiall supported by the Debian installer 1.b (Reminder of the use for additional signal lines on the PCB) 2. The free ARM emulator QEMU allows you to install a Debian(ARM) on other systems ### 1. ### "The first release candidate of the debian-installer for Debian's forthcoming "Etch" distribution was released yesterday, offering nearly complete support to the Linksys $99 NSLU2 NAS gadget." http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS4448420055.html Linksys NAS NSLU2 use an Intel XScale core inside, the IXP420, which is based on a ARMv5TE architecture... http://www.intel.com/design/network/prodbrf/25249403.pdf So with the cheap NSLU2 you can feel now the great potential of Debian with apt-get on a ARM plattform ;) see: http://www.cyrius.com/debian/nslu2/install.html http://www.nslu2-linux.org The NSLU2 is just another example that people like to use the full power of the hardware - dobble the CPU speed 133 Mhz to 266 Mhz (to have full 200 Mbit/s routing power with ethernet) - add one RS232 - add one USB 1.1 Port - upgrading Flash and RAM memory And of corse the hackers are disapointed that the SoC offeres two Networkdevices *BUT* see http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Info/CPUOverview for some limitations due the PCB - e.g.: "There are two MII interfaces of which only one is wired to an Ethernet PHY. The other MII interface is not accessible at all as the designers of the PCB did not bring the necessary BGA ball connections out." (oh no!) "The PCI bus is used to connect the NEC USB chip to the IXP420 and it is not possible to connect anything else as the required lines are also not brought out. Removal of the NEC USB chip to gain access to the PCI signals is the only way." Again: just one missing signal line can destroy a lot of the potential of the device for hackers and developers ;) BTW Security - the official Debian NSLU2 installation didn't include the close source ethernet driver - I must express my thank and support for Seans / OpenMoko decission to take care, that the is a clean, open, trustable linux system on the Neo1973 - waiting for Wifi is better then degenerate the Neo1973 to a untrustable plattform. And Suns GPLizing of java shows that focusing on trustable, clear systems will have succsess on the long term - when everybody would make compromises with security from the start.... so thank you for living the Debian spirit ;) But back to the good points of the nslu2 news - to feel the power when you can use Debian on your Worksation, your Laptop, your server, in near future on your mobile and now on your cheap NAS - imagine you own this cheap NAS, it is pluged to your network an one the PC you sitting in front now (while reading my mail) you have a shell (probably a SSH) to this nslu2. type in: apt-get install asterisk <return> and now you will have in a few minutes the power of asterisk (www.asterisk.org) the great powerfull open telefon server on your small NAS box just from the debian servers - without building own packets or compiling.... The same way you will able to install powerfull software on your mobile - with the Neo1973 and OpenMoko ;))))) GNU/Linux and especialy Debian does have a lot of programms that could run without frontend, without GUI So with the Neo1973 we didn't need to start from the scratch with everything.... Debian-ARM offers allot of power, today! :)))) ### 2. ### With the linuxdevices news I found another possibility to play with Debian on an ARM plattform before we get the first Neo1973: "Free ARM emulator beats real hardware Sep. 27, 2006 French Debian developer Aurelien Jarno has published a how-to about installing Debian (or another Linux distribution) on the open-source QEMU emulator. When run on newish AMD-based PCs, the setup can outperform actual hardware development targets, he says." http://linuxdevices.com/news/NS9983843412.html Arm emulation even with X :))) "Using Xorg You now have a full Debian arm system that you can use for development or whatever. You You can even run Xorg using the fb device. Not that you have to select a 256-color mode, with a resolution up to 1024x768. http://www.aurel32.net/info/debian_arm_qemu.php I will play with this emulation nextime and I think that this emulator will be usefull for us ;) 1. Installing -> documentation how to use QEMU 2. Booting a live system -> QEMU with OpenMoko on a live Linux CD like Knoppix www.knoppix.org 3. no installing, no rebooting: -> QEMU with OpenMoko on vservers with FreeNX so that interested developer could get an access to use this with a Java-FreeNXclient http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NX_technology http://freenx.berlios.de/ LinuxJournal had published 4 articles about NX, here the link to #4 with links to #1-#3 http://www.linuxjournal.com/node/8489/print FreeNX support audio with nxesd - I fear that the nx-java-client doesn't support this - so our OpenMoko emulation could be connected via sip with one Asterik server to serve some telephone feeling because don't let us forget - the Neo1973 is more than a mobil PC or PDA it'll the first real open linx phone :) Greetings, rob _______________________________________________ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/community