On Sun, 26 Aug 2007, Marcin Juszkiewicz wrote: > Dnia piątek, 24 sierpnia 2007, wim delvaux napisał: > > Knowing that the device is now about 6 months late and looking at the > > overall stability and completeness of the GUI (List of issues is still > > long perhaps too long ?) I wonder if it would not have been a better > > solution to put things like QTopia on the phone. > > The problem with QTopia is that you will get GPL version (so no commercial > applications for it) or will force OpenMoko into license payments.
OpenMoko Neo is a 'free' phone, why would you want to put commercial proprietary software on it? I thought the point of it was to get away from closed source/commercial/proprietary apps. If I minded that, I would just use a Symbian or Windows Mobile phone as apps for those abound. > To get > phone functionality of Qtopia well, who knows.. if enough people email Trolltech... that could change. > OpenMoko company would have to pay for > commercial Qtopia Phone or wrote whole phone subsystem from scratch as > there is no phone functionality in Qtopia4/GPL. Better than writing the whole shebang from scratch. Why not start with something that is 95% finished, mature, stable and tested. /me shrugs > > And if you go into Qtopia world you will get small amount of applications. > There was "lot" of stuff for old Qtopia versions (1.5->2.2) but none of > them can be "just built" for Qtopia4 version (and you do not really want > to play with Qtopia <4.x - trust me - I spent over two years with OPIE > hacking). Nothing wrong with qtopia 2 and Opie... > So at start all you get is Qtopia4 stuff which is done for > devices which have atleast few keys (but probably can be used with > touchscreen only too). Forget about syncing PIM data to something other > then Qtopia4 Desktop (if it exists), forget about many X11 based > applications/games (I know that most of them needs to be adapted to small > screen but many of them can be just used). as can qt4 apps... > > > For me, the free community does not need (really) a new GUI library. > > It needs a good phone ! Our interest lies in having a nicely featured > > device available so that we hackers can release our creativity and > > write apps that users like and not - yet again - re-invent the wheel to > > start all over again. And for what ? For a theme ? For true GPL ? ... Well, that license does behoove free software... > > For me LGPL is proper license for such device. It allows to write free > applications which will use any license (all those hackers which you > listed) AND it allows to write commercial stuff. OpenMoko is touted as a FREE phone with FREE software, not closed source commercial software. Which do you want more of?? > We have GPS on device - > how many Linux applications you know which can show you maps and route > you from one place to another? I know few: well, the neo is currently a developer only phone, so someone could easily write such a best, for whatever gui library. -- Lorn 'ljp' Potter Software Engineer, Systems Group, MES, Trolltech _______________________________________________ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community