On Tue, 6 Nov 2007 15:28:30 +0100 Attila Csipa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled:
my main point was - it's good we don't go the extreme "GPL everything - force anyone who writes anything on/for openmoko to be GPL" path. this is not freedom for a set of people. i'd say its a large set of people. if we did go down that road - android would find it trivial to garner a large support base that we would never be able to reach. with the mix we have - apps being mixed of gpl, bsd, mit etc. and libraries almost entirely lgpl or bsd and mit, we keep the door open for these people. it's a good thing. > On Tuesday 06 November 2007 13:42:24 you wrote: > > the problem is - if we DIDNT have full freedom (i disagree - license like > > GPL forcing you to GPL your app because it uses a public published API are > > not free. they are just someone else's idea of freedom. mine is that i can > > license my app freely as i please and make decisions on GPL vs BSD or > > whatever as fits me), then ALL these users would go for something like OHA. > > you alienated a set of users and developers by being so hard-line. :( > > OK, I don't want to turn this into a licensing debate (again), but as I see > it it boils down that OpenMoko gives you freedom, it's just that we have (or > at least I fail to see) no real consensus on what that freedom means (every > man chooses for himself). I'm no GPL zealot, I can understand both people who > agree with it, and those who think it might alienate some users (that was the > argument against GPL Qtopia some time ago). Base OpenMoko is, as far as I can > see, GPL. The toolkit, LGPL. From what you say, it somehow turns out Android > is even more free than OpenMoko as it poses less restrictions on developers > (no, I don't agree with that - yet - either, but it does sound that way). > It's just OpenMoko who needs to make up it's collective mind about what sort > of freedom it wants to provide to it's users AND developers. It is a fine > balance of letting someone doing whatever he pleases, and at the same time > not having to worry about his (non)contributions to the community, whether it > be code or other support. So do we have something more substantial than a gut > feeling that GPL (QTopia) is too restrictive, BSD (Android) is too > uncontrollable and that OpenMoko is just the right amount/mix of freedom and > control, do we just WANT OpenMoko to be the real free thing we were/are > waiting for, no matter what the actual background is ? > > PS. This is a rethorical question, I won't reply with regard to licensing > here. You don't have convince ME (if that was the alienating 'you' you were > referring to), just consider it in your OWN comprehension of Free software > (whatever the project or licence). > > > _______________________________________________ > OpenMoko community mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> _______________________________________________ OpenMoko community mailing list [email protected] http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
