Am 05.12.2007 um 13:41 schrieb Gabriel Ambuehl:

On Wednesday 05 December 2007 13:07:11 Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote:
handling cost, credit card processing cost, etc. And finally some
compensation for the time we spend doing this instead of other
things. The largest single cost component is the German VAT of 19%.
If you are ordering from outside Germany there are options that we
ship with no VAT (i.e. 545,38 EUR).


Does this include a case for the phone? Also at what number of units does the

Unfortunately no.

We still have to find a (communty driven?) approach to get to such a case (ideas are welcome!). Some proposals are at

http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Compulab_EM-X270#Case

or

http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Hardware:Neo1973:Alternate_Cases

price drop to say 400EUR outside Germany?

From the basic calculation, if we shoot for 500 units we could come to approx. 450 EUR (plus tax) and 1k for approx 370 EUR (plus tax).

Getting 500 fixed orders appears IMHO quite stretched if we assume (well that is my personal assumption from following the discussions and order numbers) that FIC has sold approx. 1-2k developer units at 350$.

The problem is that if we set our target too high we will not reach it and nobody will get anything (just money back).

A different issue is that it may become too risky for us (we are quite small company) to hold all these funds. Let's (not really) assume we pay the manufacturer and they don't deliver. Or goods get confiscated by tax authorities. What happens? We must pay back all the pre-orders before we get back any money from the manufacturer (if at all). So, if we shoot for 1k this could be some 400k EUR. Plus cost for lawyers :-)

That is the reason why we have targeted 100 units - well, at a higher price. If there is someone who would be willing to share the risk, we can modify our offer...

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