On Saturday 22 November 2008, Anton Persson wrote: > Hi, > > I think this is the best argument for the need of a precision stylus yet. > > However, as I see it, if you make this argument it means that you want > a phone that works just like your desktop computer, but which you can > carry along easily.. Maybe an EeePC is better suited?
I have an Aspire One, but it's too big to carry all the time. I'm looking for something to replace my old and dying Psion 5. I had high hopes when EPOC32 became Symbian that a suitable smartphone would appear, but one of the first things they did was to remove the office type apps. > The current OpenMoko compromise is not suitable for running a spreadsheet > application or a word processor. For you maybe, but Abiword and Gnumeric are working fine for me. > If you want those applications then you > need to have some sort of keyboard. When the Ilume keyboard is active > you only have perhaps 60% left of the screen. That means your application > only have _half_ a VGA display. This practically eliminates the pro that > people here have been bringing up, the full VGA display. The Psion's only half-VGA and it works fine there. The Psion does make better use of the screen space, but that's an application issue. > Then add the fact that > using the Ilume keyboard with a spreadsheet is, well, daunting. I can't > imagine the pain I would feel if I had to go through that ordeal. For you maybe, but it's fine for me in light use. If I need to do anything heavier there's always the Bluetooth keyboard. > So yes, the current situation makes it easy to _run_ ye old' X applications > we all love on the desktop... But _using_ them in this setup.. I don't > think so. > > If you think I'm wrong, could you please tell me in which situations you > really > could use application X or Y on your OpenMoko? And I mean in a situation > where you would not have easy access to your EeePC in your back-pack. Exactly the same situations where I use them on the Psion, probably more because I would carry it in situations where even the Psion is too big. When I first got the Psion I found myself using it in many more situations than I had expected, simply because it was there and it worked. > On the other hand, if you add a multi touch capable LCD panel, then you > would > enable software developers like myself to develop a whole range of new > applications that are _not_ possible on a desktop or on the current > OpenMoko... > Applications that you will never see on the current OpenMoko. > > (I'm still not ruling out the possibility of a multi touch enabled > resistive screen, > but I never heard of such a thing...) I've never seen a commercial one, but I don't think it presents too many technical hurdles. unfortunately Openmoko aren't big enough to push a manufacturer to make such a thing, unlike Apple. > Best regards > Anton Persson > > On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 1:26 AM, Leonti Bielski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Why do we need capacitive display? > > We still are not going to solve hanging up during the call - because > > capacitive screen does it too - the only way to avoid that is by doing > > it in software. > > Someone said - it will be a good motivation to make programs more > > finger-friendly. What I like about Freerunner is that I can find some > > program, compile it and use it straight on Freerunner. With the > > capacitive screen we can forget about most gtk, fltk apps, just > > because they need stylus to be used. Do we really want to have a > > system that is based on linux, but looks like every other phone > > platform? > > Now imagine we have calc sheet application on the phone. Whis the > > resolution of FR we can see really a lot, and what is important we can > > manipulate cells in it. Can you do it with your finger? (with the > > capacitive touchscreen you can't even use your fingernail). > > What I mean is that the ability to use other objects to manipulate > > the screen is an advantage, not a disadvantage. > > > > Leonti > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Openmoko community mailing list > > community@lists.openmoko.org > > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community _______________________________________________ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community