On 10 Dec 2008, at 01:02, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Stroller wrote: >> For me, personally, a fully open-source ADSL router would be more >> compelling. Whilst you can do just about anything you want with >> iptables, most of us need a separate ADSL box of some sort [1]. Given >> any arbitrary ADSL router I'm sure I could find something about it I >> don't quite like, for some certain obscure configuration. The Wanadoo >> Livebox has, for instance, a USB port, which would allow you to run a >> print server on it or BitTorrent to an external hard-drive (like the >> Asus WL-700gE). But you can't because it's bleedin' closed. > > Out of curiosity, what's the main benefit in having a hackable ADSL > router? Outside of consolidating router and modem?
Consolidating router & modem is good enough for me. :) I don't want the extra box cluttering up my trendy designer apartment *cough*. > I've always bridged and considered an ADSL modem to be a transparent > device whilst using OpenWRT on routers to perform all required > networking and authentication. I've never done that - it'll be the approach I take when I go ADSL2 (hopefully soon), but wasn't the obvious way to do things when I got my last router (perhaps as much as 6 years ago, now). I have to say, I don't entirely trust a cheap ADSL modem used in this way. I kinda feel that it adds another level of potential confusion & troubleshooting for me, as an administrator. There's a problem with incoming packets being dropped - is it in the modem or the router? And the ADSL router must, as things stand, be closed source. I certainly see this as "flawed" compared to having the one device doing the whole job. And from a hardware point of view you're doubling everything in having separate ethernet router & ADSL "modem" - I put the last in quotes because all the external ethernet ADSL modems I've seen contain enough hardware to do routing, they just have a crippled firmware. > Now if Openmoko were to create an OpenWRT compatible router with > stupid > amounts of storage space, awesome wireless range, a screaming CPU ... I'm not an expert on home ethernet routers - from my naive point of view there's little very new about that. > ... currently consumer routers > (I use the Asus WL-500GP and WL-500W) are less than optimal, but do > the > job. Out of curiosity, could you give me a quick run-down of their failings? TIA, Stroller. _______________________________________________ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community