Oooh :-) Idea: Make it shock the user if its not the right user. I smell smoke I think it is coming from over there. Hey look there is my phone. next to a flaming POS.
On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 4:59 PM, Lothar Behrens <lothar.behr...@lollisoft.de> wrote: > Hi, > sorry for you all that lost your phone, stolen or lost anyhow by being > careless. I also had lost a phone, but not my FR :-) > I read the thread, and think about my contract. I have no gprs as of my old > phone didn't let me opening > web or wap pages. > I have some questions and ideas that are in my brain :-) > Is there any way to use analog modem connections ? > I don't know how much CPU power is needed but when possible a phone could > send more data to a dedicated > number we could provide for that. > If a real modem connection couldn't be used, what about creating a tone > modulation for the data to be send > as a 'spoken' message to be send back to a number as a voice recorder. > The voice recorder then (a Linux PC :-) could decode the data and store the > data. > All the data could be collected on a web service to probably get the bad > guys behind to give that information to > the police. > The web service also could provide information about stolen devices, thus > when a phone gets any wlan connection, > it could check for stolen state. This is not that spoof able I think, > because the web sevice may be as usual password protected. > But the server could provide sms, mms or phone gateways for fallback > options. More gateways could be provided by us. > The new gateway information could be uploaded by interacting with the user > (software updates :-) > If a phone didn't have gprs, sms, mms, or wlan, sending prepared 'data > voices' would be an option. It didn't need to send much at first to get > an answer about the stolen state in that way. I think the recorded data > could be decoded in both directions, you don't need > much cpu power, because it will be unidirectional, or let the 'protocol' > enough time between packed sent and anser packets > for decoding. > Doing an active voice call may save us the cost of callbacks or sending back > sms. With a proper longtime protocol with long pauses or a > better solution a lot could be done. > Usually you could activate this when the sim card get's changed without any > notice to the user. He should still use the phone a while > to collect information. We then could start a preinstalled application to > authenticate the sim card change. If not options are many. > The PIN entry of the normal card could be replaced by the PIN you > provide. The user then wouldn't realize it, but claims to enter > the correct, we simply accept, but start the timer for the above actions. > Or we leave the user in claim that the documentation of it's sim card > provider doesn't seem to be correct and he/she must issue > a call with the service provider. > At that point, the service provider couldn't help for that special phone. > The new 'user' HAS to contact the manufacturer and so on > you probably get your phone back, because the manufacturer should request > for sending back the phone. > Getting the state of stolen, the phone could anyway send a message to a > police station near the user with spd-say, after > the 'anti-theft' server has located the next police station's telephone > number with any of the above options sent back to the > phone. (Maybe with manual data entry of the phone numbers by us users with > POI collection, hehe tangoGPS :-) > That way the phone could help actively. Not only 'data voices' could be > sent. > Also the collected wlan, phone towers, GPS, voice, phone numbers and what > else could help to locate the guys behind, > as the phones will walk up to the key guys before it would reselled. (Where > they all are located would be very nice POI data) > With that data, we could help the police. > A note about the attack to people currently having your phone: They may not > know, that they have a stolen phone, thus > you get to be a 'criminal' and beware, you may also get reatacked by the > person :-) > Giving the police the collected data, would propably help much more. > What about all my stupid brain stuff ? > Discuss about the possibilities - even stupid ideas as the old 'acustic > coupler'. You don't really need all the modern GPRS stuff :-) > If that is possible also the cost of operation is not very high I think - > even you change your card (you know to start a separate unlocker) > Lothar > > -- | Rapid Prototyping | XSLT Codegeneration | http://www.lollisoft.de > Lothar Behrens > Heinrich-Scheufelen-Platz 2 > 73252 Lenningen > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > _______________________________________________ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
