On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 7:15 PM, Stroller<strol...@stellar.eclipse.co.uk> wrote: > > On 28 Jul 2009, at 11:35, Patryk Benderz wrote: >> ... >> Hi, did you considered legal side of this work? I mean, do GSM >> operators >> in all countries allow us to collect these data? > > The data is publicly observable, so I don't see how they can claim any > copyright upon it. The legality of cellid collecting projects has been discussed before here (and probably also in other communities)
Harald Welte mentioned the potential for legal issues in austria: >Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 10:39:31 +0200 >Subject: Re: locating via GSM, revisited (legal sidenote) >Just as a general note added to the discussion: > >As far as I remember, there has been a highest federal court ruling in >Austria some time ago, stating that the location information though >present for anyone to read in the intrinsics of the GSM signal, cannot >be used without explicit permission by the network operator. > >The point they made was that the subscription contract between the >operator and the customer covers things like voice calls, data calls, >GPRS data, etc - but it does not permit the use of GSM signals for >locating the handset on the customer side. > >I don't say I like this, and I also don't say OM should not investigate >thsi further. I'm just stating that there are legal issues and somebody >inside FIC legal should probably do an extensive survey of the legal >situation all over the target market to make sure OM doesn't get into >trouble here. (http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/openmoko-kernel/2008-April/002507.html) But the technology has moved on since april last year and possibly even google is collecting and submitting back more GSM + GPS data in this way through it's java google maps clients. > I don't see that it could be covered by a user agreement, because cell > towers advertise their presence to users of other networks. This interests me more! Can we do this with the Calypso GSM module? I only have sim cards for valid for registration on 1 network but there are 3 networks available. I'm happy to not be registered to any network/not have functioning GSM while collecting data about cellids. Is it already showing up the reports you get in the FSO interface? _______________________________________________ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community