On Thursday 17 December 2009, Brolin Empey wrote: > 2009/12/16 Al Johnson <openm...@mazikeen.demon.co.uk> > > > On Thursday 17 December 2009, Brolin Empey wrote: > > > Hello list, > > > > > > I am using QtMoko v14. AFAIK, QtMoko does not support GSM > > > multiplexing, which means even if I had a working and usable Web > > > browser for QtMoko, I could not use telephony functionality, such as > > > making and receiving phone calls, while GPRS is enabled. If I wanted > > > to have Internet access on my FreeRunner, what is the least-hassle > > > method of getting a usable Web > > > > browser > > > > > + telephony and SMS support while GPRS is enabled? Am I better off > > > > finding > > > > > a usable proprietary phone? > > > > Since you've already got the phone you may as well give the other > > firmware options a try. We keep finding people have different definitions > > of 'usable' > > so you'll have to see what suits you. > > > > SHR should be easy to try, and is supposed to do everything you want. > > There's > > a GUI for the GPRS config. It has multiplexing so GPRS, SMS and telephony > > should work together (I say should as I haven't tried GPRS recently.) > > Midori > > might be a suitable browser, although there is a problematic interaction > > between the illume keyboard and midori's address autocompletion at the > > moment. > > > > I have already tried the Om2008.8 (?) which was preinstalled on my > > FreeRunner, Om2009 (completely unusable because the GUI kept becoming > unresponsive), SHR-U (version 080808 or 090808? I can find out which > version I tried when I am home tonight.
That's a long way out of date! > It was less unusable than Om2009 > but still unusable because I could not set the clock to the correct date > and time, By default this is picked up automatically (network, gps, ntp), but you can disable some or all of these and set it manually if you want. > all of my SMS messages had the same incorrect date and time, the > text input did not work reliably, date and time show correctly here. Matching names to numbers on the message app can be slow though. > it used crappy Busybox instead of GNU > userland (I know I could probably replace Busybox with GNU userland, but > doing so requires a usable ssh connection.) still uses busybox by default, but with openssh in place of dropbear. You need to set a password or openssh will refuse the connection. > , and I could not even get a > usable ssh connection to SHR-U because I could not get bridging nor > routing working on Ubuntu and the ssh session from Cygwin on Windows Vista > was very slow and kept disconnecting. I've not tried networking on ubuntu or vista so I can't comment, but bridging on fedora just works like any other bridge. It behaves the same way whichever distro I have on the moko (except android). > I had the base or tiny version of > SHR (I forgot what it was called, but I can find out when I am at home > tonight.), which had very few apps, but I could not upgrade to the full > version because I did not have a usable ssh connection.), and finally > QtMoko, which still has issues but is by far the most usable distro I have > tried. I could try SHR again, but my first impression of SHR was very > poor because I do not understand how they could release such a broken > image. shr-unstable is just that, and breakages happen. The images are just nightly builds that have nominally succeeded, not a release that's supposed to be bug- free. The recently released shr-testing is intended to avoid the sort of failures you can get in unstable, but it takes a little while for bug fixes to trickle down from unstable. > If I try another distro, it has to be able to install to and run > from a MicroSD(HC) card because I need to keep my working QtMoko > installation in my onboard NAND. I'm running shr-u (among others) from uSD. Just make an ext3 filesystem on a spare partition and untar the tar.gz image to it. I assume you know how to multiboot already... > I want to be able to connect my > FreeRunner directly to an Ethernet LAN instead of having to use bridging > and/or routing on a PC. I already have a USB → Ethernet adapter, but I am > still waiting for my DealExtreme orders to arrive (it is taking weeks. :/) > so I can use my FreeRunner as a USB Host instead of only as a USB Device. > If I could connect my FreeRunner directly to my Ethernet LAN, then it does > not matter if I cannot get a usable ssh connection to SHR-U via USB > networking, but such a connection should still work because it works fine > with QtMoko. The Settings app has a switch for USB host/device mode. So long as the kernel module is present it should work, but I've never tried a USB ethernet adapter with it. _______________________________________________ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community