On 01/16/2012 09:31 AM, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote:
3. at the current price of the GTA04 group tour (450-500 EUR range) we
can expect approx. 30% buyers. This would still mean 6000 of the originally
sold GTA02 devices. Hm. We are still far away from this figure with
subscriptions. What are the reasons?
For reasons already pointed out by others, the real market might be the
subscribers of this same list. Then price becomes the limitation. As
others, I'm also willing to contribute with a donation (100€) or high
risk small investment, but not the current price.
4. a final observation is that I have to conclude that some of us have
no realistic perception of the market prices.
More than 40% would not want to pay more than 200-250 EUR
for a complete GTA04 (even with case etc.).
This makes me really puzzled as the GTA02 was never sold cheaper
than 199 EUR. Isn't getting UMTS, fast 3D graphics any value to the
majority of the Openmoko community?
High end phones cost around 500€ and the OpenMoko experience has taught
us that "open" comes by with compromising the specs. I'm not sure the
GTA04 has been shown (marketed) as spec competitive with high end phones
of 500€.
The cheapest UMTS Android 2.2 device I can currently get in
Germany is at 129 EUR (most likely from some overstock clearance).
Has a 320x240 display, no sensors, no free and open software. No
hardware description, no schematics. Appears to be crap and much
less featured than the GTA04. But the poll result indicates this is the
way we should go. Really?
I wnder how the community thinks it can be done at such low prices?
I think the situation has changed a lot since the initial introduction
of the OpenMoko, in particular with the introduction of Android. At this
pace, how much will it take for an Android phone manufacturer to release
a fully open phone? And more importantly, right now what are the
advantages of openness of the GTA04? Why exactly is it more free? What
is its competitive advantage(s)? Again, I have not seen this in a big
billboard, and I admit I have not done the research myself.
Fernando
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