okay now i was able to read the full thread and notice that it is the same project.
04/13/15 01:08 -ին Norayr Chilingarianը գրել է. > btw there is a free software cellular baseband project > https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/free-software-cellular-baseband > > On Sat, 11 Apr 2015, Spacefalcon the Outlaw wrote: > >> Nick <openmoko-commun...@njw.me.uk> wrote: >> >>> Where does that leave the indiegogo campaign? Is the money not >>> needed now? >> >> It is indeed no longer needed for the original purpose for which the >> campaign was started when the original PCB files were believed to have >> been lost. The campaign page has been updated to reflect this new >> development. However, if anyone would like to continue donating, the >> money would help me and Shannon - see the update at the bottom of the >> "story" page. >> >>> Eventually you'll need more funds, presumably, for the >>> production parts of the project. >> >> Yes, and I am not even considering "production" as in "production for >> sale" at all at this point - way too premature to even think about it. >> Instead, what the project may need money for in a few months will be >> physical production of the first lab prototypes. >> >> I am approaching this project in a very different way from how a >> business person would do it. Business people always talk about what >> they call opportunity costs, and whenever they consider doing any >> project or venture, they always consider the option of *not* doing it. >> When they look at costs, they generally estimate the total cost upfront >> (the total cost to get to the end result), and decide whether or not >> to do the project based on that total cost among other factors. >> >> But I work differently: I concentrate all of my effort, energy and >> attention on whatever is the immediate next step at each given moment, >> and deliberately abstain from thinking about what costs or challenges >> lie ahead. I deviate from the "proper business" way because in that >> "proper business" way the purpose of realistically estimating the >> total cost to the finish line is to decide whether or not to do the >> project at all, and for me not doing my project is NOT an option: I >> need this project in order to give my life purpose and meaning. >> Therefore, I keep my attention focused on the immediate next step, and >> simply hope for the best when it comes to future difficulties and/or >> costs further down the road. >> >> Right now the immediate next step is for me and my PCB layout partner >> to produce our own layout for the first prototype we seek to build, >> based on the just-recovered Openmoko one and other available references >> like the Pirelli DP-L10. This step is pure desk work, i.e., editing >> design files on a computer with the appropriate software tools, so no >> money is needed for the project itself at this point - although my >> family could very much use any help given. >> >> After this step is done, the results of it will be publicly released: >> a PCB design file in a free EDA tool format and a set of gerbers which >> one can send to a fab to produce a physical board. (In fact, all work >> is being done in a public source repository, so it's really in a state >> of continuous release, no need to wait for completion.) Only after >> the design is complete and we have the gerbers for the first prototype >> will I start looking into how much it would cost to physically produce >> that first prototype board from those gerbers. It will probably be >> several months from now, so hopefully by then my personal/family >> financial situation will improve (the current hardship is expected to >> last about 4 months), and I may be able to afford that step on my own >> - and if not, it'll be time for another crowdfunding campaign then. >> >>> Speaking of which, are you planning >>> to sell the phones you produce yourself, eventually? Or outsource >>> it? >> >> I do plan on offering finished products (initially standalone modems >> for playful use with laptops etc, and later phones) up for retail sale >> to end users, but whenever someone complains about my asking price >> being too high, I'll point them to the freely released gerber, BOM etc >> files and invite them to try producing it themselves for less. >> >> VLR, >> SF >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Openmoko community mailing list >> community@lists.openmoko.org >> http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community >> > > _______________________________________________ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community _______________________________________________ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community