Hi Harold, 
If you use bark from conifers you should only apply it around conifers,
there are turpenes in the bark which will leach and not be good for
non-coniferous trees. It won't kill them but it sure slows them down.
Watch for honey fungus as well. Don't put that bark anywhere.   Karen

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   1. Free assistance for Community Food Projects       Program
      applicants (Betsy Johnson)
   2. ACGA discount on Patchwork (Jim Flint)
   3. Re: Accuracy in Answering Scholar Inquiries (Don Boekelheide)
   4. Re: Back to gardening (Harold Haas)
   5. Re: Back to gardening (Deborah Mills)


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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 10:15:47 -0500
From: "Betsy Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Community_garden] Free assistance for Community Food
        Projects        Program applicants
To: "ACGA listserv" <community_garden at list.communitygarden.org>
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FREE ASSISTANCE FOR CFP APPLICANTS

If you are considering applying to the USDA Community Food Projects
(CFP)
Competitive Grants Program, the Community Food Security Coalition
(CFSC)offers free assistance.

CFSC's technical assistance (TA) specialists can help you decide
whether or
not to apply, clarify CFP program guidelines, address technical
questions,
provide feedback on program plans or proposal drafts, and help you
develop
an evaluation plan.  CFSC will sponsor up to 75 minutes of one-on-one
assistance per grant applicant at no cost.  Additional time may be
available
at an hourly rate.

If you would like to use this service, please see
http://www.foodsecurity.org/cfp_help.html  for details.

CFSC also offers a CFP Planning Guide with a wealth of information
about CFP
program guidelines and how to develop a strong proposal. It is
available for
free at http://www.foodsecurity.org/cfp_help.html  (scroll down to
bottom of
page). The CFSC website also includes guides to developing a letter of
intent and planning proposals, examples of successful CFP grant
proposals,
and other information helpful to CFP applicants.

The 2007 guides will be developed and posted soon, but in the meantime
the
2006 guides can be used for planning since much of the information will
be
the same.  Note: There are significant modifications to the project
narrative specifications this year.

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The Community Food Projects (CFP) Competitive Grants Program is a
major
funding source for community-based food and agriculture projects in the
U.S.
The Request for Applications (RFA) was released on January 12. 
Initial
letters of intent are due by February 13 (by email).  The procedures
are
detailed in the CFP Request for Applications, which is available at
the
grants.gov website as follows:
 http://www.grants.gov/search/search.do?oppId=12255&mode=VIEW.






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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 10:37:19 -0500
From: "Jim Flint" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Community_garden] ACGA discount on Patchwork
To: <community_garden at list.communitygarden.org>
Message-ID: <009401c73e3b$34ed54b0$718272d8 at FBG1>
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January 22,2007

Hello ACGA list serv friends,

Don was very kind to recommend our 2005 book, "Patchwork: stories of
gardens 
and community," as a resource for community gardeners and organizers.

If a list serv or ACGA member would like to order "Patchwork," we still
have 
first edition copies available and can provide a 20% discount and free

shipping on orders received through February 10, 2007.

To order one or more copies, please send a note with your mailing
address 
and a check* for $7.95 per book to:

ACGA Book Special
c/o Friends of Burlington Gardens
PO Box 4504
Burlington, VT  05406-4504

* Please make your check payable to "Friends of Burlington Gardens."

For more info, please visit
http://www.burlingtongardens.org/Patchwork.htm. 
The regular price of Patchwork as listed on our web site is $9.95 plus
$2.00 
shipping and handling.

Sincerely,

Jim Flint, Executive Director
Friends of Burlington Gardens
180 Flynn Ave Studio 3
PO Box 4504
Burlington, VT  05406-4504
802-861-4769
www.burlingtongardens.org 



Anyway, to Adam's list, I'd suggest:

25 Years of Community Gardening (ACGA, 2005), ISBN-13
978-1-59975-411-6. It's a collection of 'best'
articles on a veriety of community gardening topics
from the American Community Gardening Association
magazine between 1980 and 2004. You can get it from
ACGA or Amazon (US).

The collection is OK, though space limitations meant
leaving out some very good articles (including a
couple of excellent essays by Adam), so looking for
copies of ACGA's Journal of Community Gardening and
Community Greening Review are well worth the effort.

Of the Jobb book vintage is Mary Lee Coe's Growing
With Community Gardening (Countryman Press, Vermont,
1978) ISBN 0-914378-36-8. Her book is less of a 'how
to' than Jobb or Larry Sommer's The Community Garden
Book (Gardens For All/National Gardening Association,
Vermont, 1984), and has better historical notes.

I like Patchwork, stories of gardens and community, by
Jim Flint and Beret Halverson (Friends of Burlington
Gardens, Vermont, 2005) ISBN 0-9713583-3-8, and A
Patch of Eden, American's inner-city gardeners, by
Patricia Hynes (Chelsea Green, Vermont, 1996) ISBN
0-930031-80-6 for stories from the garden.

Good luck! Rumor has it that the upcoming edition of
the Community Greening Review will be on community
garden research, so you may want to watch for that
later this year.

Don Boekelheide
Charlotte, NC




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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 08:41:49 -0800 (PST)
From: Don Boekelheide <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Community_garden] Accuracy in Answering Scholar
        Inquiries
To: community_garden at list.communitygarden.org 
Message-ID: <20070122164149.87161.qmail at web34211.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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Hi, all, hi, Adam,

Thanks for the corrections, Adam - that's the map I'm
talking about! Here's a view:

www.magazine.org/editorial/40-40-covers/4.jpg 

I also like the New Yorker cover of the 'stans'-

www.magazine.org/editorial/40-40-covers/14.jpg 

It's no doubt equally true that we in the 'rest of the
country' don't understand the microcosm of New York
City terribly well, either. My apologies on getting
the location of your garden wrong. The family of _the_
Dewitt Clinton? Honestly!

As for reading questions carefully, point well taken.
Tu as raison, mon frere, c'est toujours bien vrai.

That said, I hope our scholar broadens his community
gardening reading to include places outside New York
City, such as the book you recommended about Boston.
If nothing else, looking at other communities shows
what astounding things New York community gardeners
have accomplished.  When ACGA met in NYC, the garden
tours were truly inspiring.

Speaking of Clintons, I hear your junior senator is
running for president. She's a Jersey girl, no? Any
idea of where she stands on community gardening?

Don Boekelheide
Charlotte, NC



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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 19:20:50 -0600
From: "Harold Haas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Community_garden] Back to gardening
To: <community_garden at list.communitygarden.org>
Cc: Steven Kulhavy <Steven.Kulhavy at tinker.af.mil>
Message-ID: <BBEBKFDHOHLMPOCJOBENEEDBDOAA.haastyle at cox.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Thanks Mike and John.  Good to hear from some in this area.  I have
another
question.

I have an old WW Grinder [antique] and a neighbor of mine has a tree
trimming/fire wood business.  I ask them today if they would let me
have all
the bark that falls off when they split the wood.  He just allows it to
be
hauled off in city trash.  What would be good to mix with the tree bark
that
I grind up so as to speed up the composting and usage? Also, will this
be
too acid or something to use on a vegetable garden?  I may soon have
more
bark than I can bite. ha ha.

I've included a picture of my ice covered garden spot.  We had 3" to 6"
of
sleet this last week.  That should give the garden a slow drink and
also
reduce the bug population.  I had just tilled in about 6 bushels of
composted leaf and grass clippings.  Not bad timing if I do say so
myself.

I am so looking forward to home grown tomatoes!

Happy gardening
Harold in OKC.


Message: 1
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 08:33:49 -0800 (PST)
From: John Herndon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Community_garden] Back to Gardening
To: community_garden at list.communitygarden.org 
Message-ID: <698681.79160.qm at web83301.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
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Hi Harold,
  Mike has some of the issues right, but there are many successful CG's
in
Oklahoma City.
  You can contact Bruce Edwards at the Regional Food Bank who runs
Urban
Harvest.  bedwards at regionalfoodbank.org 
A better place to start is to contact Alan Parlier at the Central Park
Community Garden to put you in touch with the real down to earth
gardening
folks and the techniques needed to be successful here.
  parleir at cox.net 
  I don't make it up to the city much any more but if I can help you on
the
gardening issues do not hesitate to contact me.
  All the best,
  John Herndon
  vgscapes at sbcglobal.net 
  OU Community Garden
  Norman


  Harold wrote:
  Could we discuss some gardening issues.  What are you doing now to
get
ready
for Spring plantings?  Composting and other soil amendments etc.  Let's
get
back to gardening.  Row placement east/West or North/South.  Raised
beds.
Till or no till.  How do I get started letting other people use some of
my
land for their garden?
Thanks
Harold in Oklahoma City

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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 11:54:07 -0500
From: "Mike McGrath" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Community_garden] Back to Gardening
To: "John Herndon" <vgscapes at sbcglobal.net>,
        <community_garden at list.communitygarden.org>
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John & Harold: Don't forget that my show (www.youbetyourgarden.org) is
on
the air in OK City (one of the very first places to pick us up!).
    One or both of you should call in sometime!
                                                    ---McG
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Herndon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <community_garden at list.communitygarden.org>
Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 11:33 AM
Subject: Re: [Community_garden] Back to Gardening


> Hi Harold,
>  Mike has some of the issues right, but there are many successful
CG's in
> Oklahoma City.
>  You can contact Bruce Edwards at the Regional Food Bank who runs
Urban
> Harvest.  bedwards at regionalfoodbank.org 
> A better place to start is to contact Alan Parlier at the Central
Park
> Community Garden to put you in touch with the real down to earth
gardening
> folks and the techniques needed to be successful here.
>  parleir at cox.net 
>  I don't make it up to the city much any more but if I can help you
on the
> gardening issues do not hesitate to contact me.
>  All the best,
>  John Herndon
>  vgscapes at sbcglobal.net 
>  OU Community Garden
>  Norman
> To post an e-mail to the list: 
community_garden at list.communitygarden.org 
>
> To subscribe, unsubscribe or change your subscription:
>
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 11:38:35 -0800
From: "Deborah Mills" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Community_garden] Back to gardening
To: "Harold Haas" <haastyle at cox.net>,
        <community_garden at list.communitygarden.org>
Cc: Steven Kulhavy <Steven.Kulhavy at tinker.af.mil>
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Harold,

I am assuming that the bark is a combination of different tree species?
 If 
so, I don't think you shall have a problem with acidity. Just make sure
you 
compost the material with plenty of rich nitrogen materials so it gets

completely broken down before you apply it to your vegetable garden. If
it 
doesn't get completely composted and you apply it to your garden the 
material maybe too rich in carbon, which could create problems with
your 
plants because the material will draw the nitrogen from the soil, in
turn, 
your plants will suffer.

Think about using the larger coarser material as mulch for walkways to

reduce weed growth.

Cheers,
Deborah
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Harold Haas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <community_garden at list.communitygarden.org>
Cc: "Steven Kulhavy" <Steven.Kulhavy at tinker.af.mil>
Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 5:20 PM
Subject: Re: [Community_garden] Back to gardening


> Thanks Mike and John.  Good to hear from some in this area.  I have 
> another
> question.
>
> I have an old WW Grinder [antique] and a neighbor of mine has a tree
> trimming/fire wood business.  I ask them today if they would let me
have 
> all
> the bark that falls off when they split the wood.  He just allows it
to be
> hauled off in city trash.  What would be good to mix with the tree
bark 
> that
> I grind up so as to speed up the composting and usage? Also, will
this be
> too acid or something to use on a vegetable garden?  I may soon have
more
> bark than I can bite. ha ha.
>
> I've included a picture of my ice covered garden spot.  We had 3" to
6" of
> sleet this last week.  That should give the garden a slow drink and
also
> reduce the bug population.  I had just tilled in about 6 bushels of
> composted leaf and grass clippings.  Not bad timing if I do say so
myself.
>
> I am so looking forward to home grown tomatoes!
>
> Happy gardening
> Harold in OKC.
>
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 08:33:49 -0800 (PST)
> From: John Herndon <vgscapes at sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: Re: [Community_garden] Back to Gardening
> To: community_garden at list.communitygarden.org 
> Message-ID: <698681.79160.qm at web83301.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> Hi Harold,
>  Mike has some of the issues right, but there are many successful
CG's in
> Oklahoma City.
>  You can contact Bruce Edwards at the Regional Food Bank who runs
Urban
> Harvest.  bedwards at regionalfoodbank.org 
> A better place to start is to contact Alan Parlier at the Central
Park
> Community Garden to put you in touch with the real down to earth
gardening
> folks and the techniques needed to be successful here.
>  parleir at cox.net 
>  I don't make it up to the city much any more but if I can help you
on the
> gardening issues do not hesitate to contact me.
>  All the best,
>  John Herndon
>  vgscapes at sbcglobal.net 
>  OU Community Garden
>  Norman
>
>
>  Harold wrote:
>  Could we discuss some gardening issues.  What are you doing now to
get
> ready
> for Spring plantings?  Composting and other soil amendments etc. 
Let's 
> get
> back to gardening.  Row placement east/West or North/South.  Raised
beds.
> Till or no till.  How do I get started letting other people use some
of my
> land for their garden?
> Thanks
> Harold in Oklahoma City
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> Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 11:54:07 -0500
> From: "Mike McGrath" <MikeMcG at PTD.net>
> Subject: Re: [Community_garden] Back to Gardening
> To: "John Herndon" <vgscapes at sbcglobal.net>,
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>
> John & Harold: Don't forget that my show (www.youbetyourgarden.org)
is on
> the air in OK City (one of the very first places to pick us up!).
>    One or both of you should call in sometime!
>                                                    ---McG
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John Herndon" <vgscapes at sbcglobal.net>
> To: <community_garden at list.communitygarden.org>
> Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 11:33 AM
> Subject: Re: [Community_garden] Back to Gardening
>
>
>> Hi Harold,
>>  Mike has some of the issues right, but there are many successful
CG's in
>> Oklahoma City.
>>  You can contact Bruce Edwards at the Regional Food Bank who runs
Urban
>> Harvest.  bedwards at regionalfoodbank.org 
>> A better place to start is to contact Alan Parlier at the Central
Park
>> Community Garden to put you in touch with the real down to earth 
>> gardening
>> folks and the techniques needed to be successful here.
>>  parleir at cox.net 
>>  I don't make it up to the city much any more but if I can help you
on 
>> the
>> gardening issues do not hesitate to contact me.
>>  All the best,
>>  John Herndon
>>  vgscapes at sbcglobal.net 
>>  OU Community Garden
>>  Norman
>> To post an e-mail to the list: 
community_garden at list.communitygarden.org 
>>
>> To subscribe, unsubscribe or change your subscription:
>>
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