I don't mind paying top dollar for first quality organic produce from a CSA
or farmer's market,  especially if I sense that the Mexican workers he
brought in the truck with him are treated OK.  I see NOFA, and the guy with
the rough hands says, "please" or "por favor" occasionally, when his guy
hauls out a crate, then it's a pretty good indicator.  

This also means that you have to cook seasonally, and if that's from where I
live in the North East, means that my lettuce will be hydroponic and
tomatoes mean canned in spaghetti or fresh in the summer. The freezer is my
lifeline to the tastes of the summer.

Time for soups, grains,  beans, root vegetables and squash around here. Hot
borscht with dill anyone? 

I'm getting old - stopped calling folks "enemies" a long time ago. "Fools"?
Well I'm one and many  are too. Just have to make sure that we don't hurt
anybody, much...

Best wishes,
Adam Honigman

 



-----Original Message-----
From: John Verin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 4:58 PM
To: CG List (E-mail)
Subject: RE: [cg] slow food prices




> Until you create the demand the Cheese will be $13/lb.  However, this
> past year I saw organic cabbage, squash and various other 
> greens priced
> at the same price a "conventional" grown products.  This is a 
> big change
> in the market place,  you have to start by supporting the change when
> you can and when you can afford it and sometimes making a sacrifice to
> do.
> 

> Ray Schutte
>
The reason "conventional" is cheap is a) is it cheaply grown, concerning
techniques of mass production; b) your taxes subsidize conventional
agriculture, so you are paying twice for the food. In the early '90, for
example, $5 Billion of tax payer money went simply to (highly inefficient)
irrigation of industrially grown food.

If "organic" is becoming cheaper, it's because corporate-owned "farms" are
co-opting organic and producing it at a scale that has nothing to do with
the ethic and soul of the origins of organic farming. 

Traditionally, organic was more expensive because we were seeing the true
cost of natural food production, production that was founded first in
ethics, then in technique. That organic is becoming cheaper is not to be
confused as a good sign of demand. It is a bad sign of industrial production
that has a reductionist technique-based approach.

In terms of making sacrifice, yes, it's part of the picture. I eat the
industrially grown organic carrots from California when I have none that
I've grown. I put most of my post-bills-n-rent money into food, with organic
and local as first priorities, most of which is fresh produce.

Ultimately we are moving in the right direction, and no it won't be the
ideal we want, at least not instantly. Yet the best we can do is take
actions that serve everyone... even those we would call enemies or fools.

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