Brian, This is supplementary to Lenny Librizzi's post>
The Clinton Community Garden, founded in 1978 and transferred to parks in 1985, is located on West 48th street, between 9th & 10th Avenues in Hell's Kitchen. It is smack dab in the center of the Special Clinton District. The garden, whose site was originally a rubble filled lot/dumping ground for rusted cars and the odd gangland hit ( read "The Westies" by T. English.) Due to gentrification in the area, over the last 5 years, we now have some high rent apartments in the 19th Century tenements that line 48th between 9th & 10th Avenues. Landlords have made contributions to the Clinton Community Garden for "making it nice." Apartments with a view of the garden rent pretty quickly and for a good buck. It's a miniature version of the "park view" that real estate guys charge more for around Olmstead & Vaux designed Central Park (think Prospect Park in Brooklyn, Mt. Royal in Montreal, etc.) Urban Blocks with community gardens also tend to develop block associations, clean up their tree pits and plant flower boxes, a kind of ripple effect. Bottom line: It's nicer having trees, green and plantings in your window instead of the gas works. And landlords can charge more for it, if they can. Best wishes, Adam Honigman Volunteer, Clinton Community Garden http://www.clintoncommunitygarden.org -----Original Message----- From: Lenny Librizzi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 15, 2002 11:03 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Brian Kehoe Subject: Re: [cg] In the demented modern system Brian, It could prove to be quite difficult to show any causal relationship between property values and community gardens, too many other variables to take into account. But if you do have some way to do an evaluation that will yield some kind of relationship between community gardens and real estate values, I suggest that you check out our New York City Community Garden Mapping Project web site: http://www.cmap.nypirg.org/CENYC/cenycmapsearch.asp?view=default It may be a good place to start. The maps include other open space, vacant land and vacant buildings. We have a database lots of information about the community gardens and you should be able to get information about property values from the NYC Dept of Finance. www.nyc.gov Also check out OASIS www.oasisnyc.net for open space and property info. Good Luck. Would love to see what you come up with. Lenny Librizzi 11/14/02 10:54:34 AM, "Brian Kehoe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > From: "Brian Kehoe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject:Re: [cg] In the demented modern system > Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 10:54:34 -0500 > > > > > Helen, > > > I wonder if there are any suburban communities where it is acceptable to let > your lawn go? I believe that the general trend is towards greater private > neighborhood oversight of aesthetics such as grass. (i loved the summer's > Doonesbury skits on Cali) It would be great to find an example of an > enlightened neighborhood and track the effects of such upon property values. > > I am a Master's in Planning student and have begun following the listserv > dialogues because I plan on writing a thesis on community gardens and their > relationship to property values. Any info on that specific variable would be > very much appreciated. > > > > > Sincerely > > Brian Kehoe > Masters in Urban Planning > University of Buffalo > >From: "a.h.steely" > >To: > >Subject: [cg] In the demented modern system > >Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 17:57:47 -0500 > > > >Sharon had a great idea about keeping the kids close to home instead of the > >soccer thing but we need to realize that tuition can often be paid for if > >you are a top athlete. The ladies at the Master Gardener class read a great > >script about the Creator talking to St Francis about the tribe of > >suburbanites that live in Penna. and have large areas of flat green grass > >rather than the diversity which was there originally. If someone has a copy > >could you please guide me to a website to copy the script. > > > >and they water the grass to have it grow so that they can cut it short and > >bag it to have it hauled away... Urban lawns need to be turned into gardens > >for wild native plants to draw the beneficial bugs and fungi into the > veggie > >gardens. Most of the foreign plants are not nutritious for our beneficials! > > > >Helen Steely > > > > > > > >______________________________________________________ > >The American Community Gardening Association listserve is only one of > ACGA's services to community gardeners. To learn more about the ACGA and to > find out how to join, please go to http://www.communitygarden.org > > > > > >To post an e-mail to the list: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >To subscribe, unsubscribe or change your subscription: https:// > secure.mallorn.com/mailman/listinfo/community_garden > > > Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. > ______________________________________________________ The American > Community Gardening Association listserve is only one of ACGA's services to > community gardeners. 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