First, happy New Year to everyone on this list serv, contributors and lurkers 
alike. May you have vibrant community gardens, however you interpret that 
deceptively simple phrase, and whether or not you belong to ACGA.

I first discovered this list in the late 1990s. My wife's job had moved us to 
Charlotte, NC, faaaar from my home on the California coast. Community gardening 
in Charlotte at that time "belonged" to a single organization in a wealthy 
white church, who with the best of intentions worked to help poorer mostly 
Black folks start vacant lot gardens. Something told me that, although much 
good came of the church's efforts, community gardening could mean much more - 
but that didn't fly. They _knew_ what community gardening was - it was what 
they did, and that was that. The director of the church group kept tight 
control over the program and showed no interest in, and even a bit of hostility 
and suspicion toward, community gardens outside her group's. We inevitably 
clashed, and I was left with nobody to talk to - few people in this well-heeled 
New South city seemed to know or care about community gardening. At my wit's 
end, I turned to the Internet and found this
 listserve. It changed everything. "No more whining - get out there, find ways 
to work together, make gardens work!" Said Adam H in NYC, in so many words. And 
so, inspired by him and many others on this list and in ACGA, I got to work.

We've made much progress in Charlotte, though we've still got a long way to go. 
With some irony, my major project has become a garden originally started then 
"passed along" by that same church group. The admittedly charismatic and 
dedicated leader of that group and I are at least on speaking terms, today. 
Adam (rest his great soul) and Rodney King were right - we have to learn to get 
along, especially those of us who share deeper values and visions for community 
gardens (and other things), but differ in our personalities and chosen 
approaches.

ACGA ideally is all about this kind of bridge-building among different 
approaches.

We now have a large and thriving 'model' community garden in Charlotte, plus 
the seeds of several more. The church-based group is expanding again. There are 
many more choices for those who want to garden in a community setting, and fast 
growing interest. My guess is that we might never have gotten here without help 
from ACGA in general and this list in particular.

So, though I know I'm speaking to a completely different group that I did 
almost a decade ago (Sharon and Doreen, you might have been around, though <:) 
- and Sally, Betsy...a bunch more of you, I see you lurking there... ), still, 
thanks to everyone for being a vital if virtual community.

Amy, you have a difficult job, as responses to your post show. As editor of the 
retrospective on ACGA published in 2005, I was able to read documents from our 
history going back to before the beginning. We've had waves of strongly 
differing perspectives - some would even say that a an early split in ACGA lead 
to formation of the very successful National Gardening Association, though 
that's simplifying history a bit. You can see the later friction between 
'gardeners' and 'greeners' in the fact that our magazine is still named The 
Community Greening Review, when the term "community greening", as understood by 
a group of environmental activists in 1990, is long since out of date (one 
person asked me "You mean, like setting up the Green Zone? (eg in Baghdad). 
(Note of interest: David Malakoff, now an NPR science correspondent, became 
co-editor at that time, after the name was changed from "The Journal of 
Community Gardening"). But you all can read this
 history for yourselves in 25 Years of Community Gardening, or take a longer 
look via Laura Lawson's book City Bountiful: A History of Community Gardening 
in America.

Point is, North American community gardeners are by nature a divers and unruly 
lot, and from the beginning, ACGA has been a loose coalition rather than a 
tightly organized monolith. True, individual leaders, elected, hired or 
self-appointed, have sometimes had great control over ACGA's organzational 
philosophy and activities. But, in the end, like my friend at the church, the 
ACGA's leaders have done quite a bit of good. Maybe more important, life goes 
on in our individual communities and gardens regardless of whether ACGA is in 
Philly, NYC or Columbus, and we have to fight our local battles, in the end, 
pretty much on our own. We are still very far from having the cohesion or 
influence of the national allotment garden organizations in the UK, Scandinavia 
or Germany, for instance. Of course, our definition of community garden is not 
an exact fit with allotment gardening, but one price we pay for our diversity 
is our lack of ability to speak with a common
 voice, or even decide what's an appropriate topic for community gardening 
(btw, zoning is absolutely appropriate...I don't think Amy disagrees with that 
- but she can certainly speak for herself).

I've gone on too long (as usual), so I'll close by mentioning the obvious. It 
is probably good in some ways, but I'm a much less active participant in this 
list and in ACGA. Part of that may be simply getting bumped off the plane by 
USAIR, causing me to miss this summer's conference. If you haven't been, ACGA 
conferences are excellent, and great for reconnecting with fellow community 
garden organizers and networking (you actually get to put faces with posts!). 
But, admittedly, there's more. I've always been most drawn to the 'gardening' 
part of community gardening. I like growing food, I like gardening, I like 
composting...you get the idea. Sometimes, I've felt a strong sense of "well 
that's nice, but it isn't really important" within ACGA. Certainly, now, I 
recognize that other aspects of community gardening are vital - as Adam said, 
community gardening is 50% gardening and 100% local political organizing. 
Thanks to ACGA,  I've chatted with and
 befriended greeners and economic developers and community organizers who might 
not know a tulip bulb from a light bulb, but they've certainly advanced the 
cause of community gardens and opened my eyes. In any event, there are other 
places for me now. Most of my writing goes into my own blog at 
http://.urbanministrygarden.wordpress.com, and I've become an ardent fan of 
www.gardenrant.com - those four women who founded it and contribute deserve 
'garden writer of the year' awards! It's become my favorite garden "magazine", 
with daily editions! Yow!

I can't help notice that many excellent community garden programs (Denver comes 
to mind, even Seattle's input is sparse, the list goes on) are scarcely 
represented in ACGA anymore, and that, while there is not an alternative that I 
know about, many groups kind-of do their own thing rather than work with ACGA. 
So, I need to seek them out elsewhere, too.

So, what does it mean for the New Year? Don't know exactly, though I know I'll 
be gardening in Charlotte, and trying to figure out ways so that anybody 
(including homeless folks) who wants to garden has the opportunity. Back to the 
roots, I suppose. I'll keep up my membership in ACGA, and one of these days try 
again to send in some pic and info for the map. That's helpful. You can 
certainly count on me keeping on coming back to this list. From past 
experience, I imagine we'll see how wide a definition community gardening has! 
Five Rings? Cool! In spite of Fred's fine posts from Atlanta, I'll probably 
grumble once in a while (to myself) about how there's not enough dirt gardening 
stuff for the likes of me, but I now find that elsewhere. Most of all, it is 
always good to hear your voices and share your stories.

Happy New Year!

Don Boekelheide
Charlotte, NC
http://.urbanministrygarden.wordpress.org



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Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 09:04:06 -0500
From: "Amy DeShon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Community_garden] List Serv "Etiquette"
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Hello Folks!

The office has been asked to send out a message to everyone reminding
 you of
ACGA's list serv etiquette. Since its the start of a new year
 (tomorrow) and
we have a whole bunch of new list serv members, here's a brief synopsis
 of
the bigger "rules".

1. Topics should be related to community gardening only.
2. Topics that spin off into other topics not related to community
 gardening
should be taken off the list serv and done through individual email
services.
3. Banter should be taken off the list serv and done through your
 individual
email services.
4. Absolutely no threats, swearing, or character assassinations: we
 respect
each other's opinions, even if we don't agree with that opinion.

Sincerely,
Amy DeShon, MPA
Executive Director
American Community Gardening Association (ACGA)
1777 E. Broad Street
Columbus, OH 43201
1-877-ASK-ACGA
Direct Line: 614-645-1537
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 09:36:07 -0500
From: "Mike McGrath" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Community_garden] List Serv "Etiquette"
To: "Amy DeShon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,    "List Serve"
    <[email protected]>
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Uh oh! I think we all just got sent to the principal's office.
                    ---Mike McG,
    (Proud violator of 1 through 3, but not that damn stupid #4!)

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Amy DeShon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "List Serve" <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 9:04 AM
Subject: [Community_garden] List Serv "Etiquette"


> Hello Folks!
>
> The office has been asked to send out a message to everyone reminding
 you 
> of
> ACGA's list serv etiquette. Since its the start of a new year
 (tomorrow) 
> and
> we have a whole bunch of new list serv members, here's a brief
 synopsis of
> the bigger "rules".
>
> 1. Topics should be related to community gardening only.
> 2. Topics that spin off into other topics not related to community 
> gardening
> should be taken off the list serv and done through individual email
> services.
> 3. Banter should be taken off the list serv and done through your 
> individual
> email services.
> 4. Absolutely no threats, swearing, or character assassinations: we 
> respect
> each other's opinions, even if we don't agree with that opinion.
>
> Sincerely,
> Amy DeShon, MPA
> Executive Director
> American Community Gardening Association (ACGA)
> 1777 E. Broad Street
> Columbus, OH 43201
> 1-877-ASK-ACGA
> Direct Line: 614-645-1537
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> The American Community Gardening Association listserve is only one of
 
> ACGA's services to community gardeners. To learn more about the ACGA
 and 
> to find out how to join, please go to http://www.communitygarden.org
>
> To post an e-mail to the list:
  [email protected]
>
> To subscribe, unsubscribe or change your subscription: 
>
 
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 06:52:05 -0800 (PST)
From: Diana Liu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Community_garden] List Serv "Etiquette"
To: Mike McGrath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Amy DeShon
    <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,     List Serve
    <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

But isn't everything connected with everything else?  So everything is
 somehow connected with community gardening and with what we do using
 community gardening as a tool?  Well, ok may be except, #4 unless you are
 really frustrated with something!  Then you can swear in private
 discussions, I won't mind.  :-)

Mike McGrath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  Uh oh! I think we all just got
 sent to the principal's office.
---Mike McG,
(Proud violator of 1 through 3, but not that damn stupid #4!)

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Amy DeShon" 
To: "List Serve" 
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 9:04 AM
Subject: [Community_garden] List Serv "Etiquette"


> Hello Folks!
>
> The office has been asked to send out a message to everyone reminding
 you 
> of
> ACGA's list serv etiquette. Since its the start of a new year
 (tomorrow) 
> and
> we have a whole bunch of new list serv members, here's a brief
 synopsis of
> the bigger "rules".
>
> 1. Topics should be related to community gardening only.
> 2. Topics that spin off into other topics not related to community 
> gardening
> should be taken off the list serv and done through individual email
> services.
> 3. Banter should be taken off the list serv and done through your 
> individual
> email services.
> 4. Absolutely no threats, swearing, or character assassinations: we 
> respect
> each other's opinions, even if we don't agree with that opinion.
>
> Sincerely,
> Amy DeShon, MPA
> Executive Director
> American Community Gardening Association (ACGA)
> 1777 E. Broad Street
> Columbus, OH 43201
> 1-877-ASK-ACGA
> Direct Line: 614-645-1537
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> The American Community Gardening Association listserve is only one of
 
> ACGA's services to community gardeners. To learn more about the ACGA
 and 
> to find out how to join, please go to http://www.communitygarden.org
>
> To post an e-mail to the list:
 [email protected]
>
> To subscribe, unsubscribe or change your subscription: 
>
 
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> 



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