Why remove soil that is full of valuable minerals and nutrition.  Mix it
with the compost and gypsum,  It is some work but no more than removing the
clay.   I have successfully done this and the resulting garden was well
worth the time.  It will be a few years before you can grow great carrots,
but you can condition an area for that.  Keep in mind sandy loam one of the
most desired soils is clay based.  The best advice has been to add organic
material, add organic material and add organic material.   You will admire
the results.

Ray Schutte

"The truth of the matter is that the flower has cleverly manipulated the bee
into hauling its pollen from blossom to blossom." The Botany of Desire,
Michael Pollan


-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike
McGrath
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 8:29 AM
To: Susannah Evans; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Community_garden] Soil Amendments

What Ken said: Get a big load or two of compost and/or well aged mushroom 
soil delivered.
I'll add that physical removal of large deposits of clay is very effective 
and emotionally satisfying.
forget the gypsum--all the books recommend it, but in 30 years I have yet to

hear a farmer or gardener say it worked as promised. And 10-10-10 id pure 
unbalanced garbage.

Remove as much clay as you can, mix in lots of good compost and you won't 
need any added food the first year.
                                                    ---Mike McG

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Susannah Evans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 1:12 PM
Subject: [Community_garden] Soil Amendments


We have a communal community garden in Columbus, OH - 40' by 80' with a clay

based soil. Our group has had several conversations about amending the soil 
to help break down the clay. Gypsum was suggested and I was wondering if 
there was a good source of gypsum that would be considered organic? We are 
not a completely organic operation, but we try to consider everything we add

to the soil to make the best decision. Also, we are interested in starting 
some of our vegetables within the next month. Would gypsum be ok to apply 
now and till in or should it be applied in the fall.

It was also suggested to add some 10-10-10 fertilizer to boost the soil. We 
are going to have a soil test done soon to see if we have specific pH or 
nutrient deficiencies. Any recommendations on some good organic soil 
amendments that could be added in the spring (or suggestions for fall?). We 
are looking to grow potatoes, tomatoes, green peppers, zucchini, bush beans,

lima beans, peas, lettuce, broccoli and celery.

Thanks,
Susannah Evans
Epworth Veggie Garden
Columbus, OH
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