(Before responding to Fred, just want to say I couldn't have said it better 
myself, Ken. We really are culturally addicted to complexity and "bigger/newer" 
is better.)

Hey, Fred,

Charlotte's best hope for a community-wide community gardening program is 
through Park and Recreation (similar to Portland, OR; maybe Toronto, where 
Parks and Rec are not the whole picture by any means, but quite involved and 
supportive). It's doubly true locally, since in our county, Extension is under 
Park and Rec - strange arrangement, but it enabled us to save Extension from 
being completely defunded a few years back.

So, I'm useless to you, but I'm very very curious about what you come up with. 
Park and Rec really hasn't taken a leadership role here, it is more a 
"laisser-faire management" role, leaving a lot to individual gardeners and luck 
of the draw on resources, who gets involved, etc. We're very lucky to have a 
head of Extension, Jim Monroe, who "gets it", and a new Park and Rec Director 
who has voiced strong support.

Anyway, please keep me posted and send me what you create. I will be glad to 
share anything, of course, once we come up with it...

This might be a good topic for our regional community gardening meeting this 
summer, no? (Hint, hint...)

Last thought - what about Bobby? Bet he has a load of materials. He's our ACGA 
President-Elect, I hear! It's good to hear somebody of quality and experience 
(and a nice guy) will be taking the lead after James, another quality guy with 
a great feel for gardening.

Don Boekelheide
Charlotte NC
http://urbanministygarden.wordpress.com


Message: 6
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 10:06:15 -0500
From: "Ken Hargesheimer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Community_garden] Why Has Not NYT's Friedman Discovered
    the    Grow Local Movements?
To: "James Godsil" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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James,

People use high tech thinking and can not think low tech.  It is a mindset.


Ken Hargesheimer
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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 15:23:02 -0400
From: "Fred Conrad" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Community_garden] List of services
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Everyone/anyone,

Say, I'm working with Park Pride Atlanta on some community gardens and
we're trying to figure out exactly what our relationship is.  We had the
idea of creating side-by-side lists of services we provide to the
gardens so everyone would know what assistance is available and who to
contact for it.

So, rather than re-invent the wheel, does anyone out there publish such
a document on line?  Obviously, it would have to be customized, I'm not
going to plaigiarize unless I absolutely feel that no one will catch me.
Looking at someone else's list might also help us identify holes in our
strategy!

We have documents that are descriptive of our programs and have a lot of
nice graphics, but in this case, we'd like to be able to figure out how
we're going to live together.  Somebody has to clean the bathroom, eh?
Put away the groceries?  Shoo away the stray dogs?

99% of our community gardens are not in parks, by the way, but it's a
growing trend.

Thanks,
fgc

Fred Conrad
Community Garden Coordinator
Atlanta Community Food Bank
732 Joseph E Lowery Blvd, NW, Atlanta, GA 30318
ph: 678.553.5932 fx: 678.553.5933
[EMAIL PROTECTED]    <http://www.acfb.org> 
Our mission is to fight hunger by engaging, educating and empowering our
community. 



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