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Today's Topics:
1. further to Monsanto (again) (Karen Jones)
2. Re: Mike's departure: a big thank you for years of service!
(Paul Revier)
3. Re: Mike's departure: a big thank you for years of service!
([email protected])
4. Re: Good Night and Good Luck (Bailey, Sarah)
5. NAIS (Ken Hargesheimer)
6. Re: Good Night and Good Luck ([email protected])
7. refugee gardens (Kristin Faurest)
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 11:03:56 -0500
From: "Karen Jones" <[email protected]>
Subject: [Community_garden] further to Monsanto (again)
To: <[email protected]>
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Hi All, Sorry to have opened this oft opened can of worms again,
Monsanto and patenting Life: Greenpeace's take on it http://
www.greenpeace.org/international/news/monsanto-pig-patent-111
And the Percy Schmizer case (there are quite a few of these) The
Supreme Court of Canada has ruled in favour of Monsanto in the
David-and-Goliath battle between the U.S. biotech giant and a
Saskatchewan farmer.
In what is believed to be the first decision of its kind anywhere
in the world, the court ruled Friday 5-4 that the farmer, Percy
Schmeiser, violated Monsanto's patent on Roundup Ready canola seeds.
"By cultivating a plant containing the patented gene and composed
of the patented cells without license, the appellants (the
Schmeisers) thus deprived Monsanto of the full enjoyment of its
monopoly," the court said in its ruling.
But the court found that Schmeiser did not profit from the Roundup
Ready seeds and therefore does not have to pay Monsanto more than
$200,000 in court costs and damages, as he had been ordered to do
by lower courts.
Schmeiser, a 73-year-old farmer, told a news conference that he's
grateful he'll be able to keep "a roof over my head."
"It is not maybe the victory we were looking for, but I and my wife
have done everything possible to bring it this far and so to me it
is a victory," Schmeiser told a news conference.
Schmeiser said even if the court ruled against him, it was a
"personal victory" to have fought the American biotech giant to the
highest level.
"When we stood up to Monsanto back in 1998, we never realized it
would go this far."
The Supreme Court decision is a landmark ruling because it hinged
on Monsanto's right to patent a plant. In a ruling on a genetically
altered mouse, the Supreme Court said higher life forms cannot be
patented, and Schmeiser's argument was that a plant is also a
higher life form and therefore cannot be patented either.
The court agreed that the plant is a higher life form and cannot be
patented, but said the patent does apply to the gene. Because the
plant contains the gene, the court decided Schmeiser violated the
patent by extension.
The Monsanto decision is of fundamental importance to the biotech
industry, farmers, health care and all sorts of industries where
genetic engineering is used.
Terry Zakreski, Schmeiser's lawyer, told reporters that finding is
essentially the same thing as allowing patents on plants.
"We are really no further ahead," he said. "It seems a little at
odds with what the court did in the Harvard mouse decision."
In a news release, Monsanto executive vice president Carl Casale
said the company is "gratified" by the decision.
"The Supreme Court has set a world standard in intellectual
property protection and this ruling maintains Canada as an
attractive investment opportunity. Patent protection encourages
innovations that will lead to the next generation of value-added
products for Canadian farmers," he said.
Monsanto's supporters say Canada needs to take a stronger approach
to protecting patent rights or risk deterring researchers. In a
statement, Janet Lambert, the president of BIOTECanada, applauded
the decision saying patent protection helps foster "a Made in
Canada innovation environment."
'I never put on a pair of shoes until I've worn them five years.'
Samuel Goldwyn
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 09:57:54 -0700 (PDT)
From: Paul Revier <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Community_garden] Mike's departure: a big thank you for
years of service!
To: [email protected]
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Mike - Thank you so much for your many contributions to improving
and educating the community gardening list.community. I always
enjoyed (and learned from) your?well informed and interesting?posts.
?
You will be missed.
?
Inch by inch, row by row, gonna make that garden grow....
?
Paul in Maine
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 13:00:38 EDT
From: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Community_garden] Mike's departure: a big thank you for
years of service!
To: [email protected], [email protected]
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ditto from AK!!
In a message dated 3/30/2009 8:58:18 A.M. Alaskan Daylight Time,
[email protected] writes:
Mike - Thank you so much for your many contributions to improving and
educating the community gardening list.community. I always enjoyed
(and learned
from) your well informed and interesting posts.
You will be missed.
Inch by inch, row by row, gonna make that garden grow....
Paul in Maine
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 13:34:49 -0400
From: "Bailey, Sarah" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Community_garden] Good Night and Good Luck
To: "Mike McGrath" <[email protected]>
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Mike -
It's a good thing that the interest in what we do has grown to the
point
that you are this busy - for me, however, your departure will be a
great
loss. I have enjoyed - and most importantly, learned from - your
comments and insights. Best of luck and many many thanks!
Sarah
Sarah Bailey
Master Gardener Program Coordinator
Cooperative Extension Service
1800 Asylum Avenue
West Hartford, CT 06117
Ph: 860-570-9023
Fax: 860-570-9008
Email: [email protected]
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of
Mike McGrath
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 11:12 AM
To: Lori Ferris; Karen Jones
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: [Community_garden] Good Night and Good Luck
Hey guys:
I originally joined this list when I began recommending community
gardens to my listeners; telling them that the folks on this list
might
be
able to help them find the closest garden. I hope you will still do
that
when asked.
But I now take my leave and will unsubscribe later today. My work
load
has increased exponentially this Spring--the explosion in gardening
interest
has me hopping; making multiple speaking appearances every weekend in
addition to my deadline jobs.
And, as many of you know, there has been precious little about
community
gardening on this list lately. So the time is right for me.
Good luck to you all, and feel free to email me privately if you
like.
Now get out and garden!
---Mike McG
www.youbetyougarden.org
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lori Ferris" <[email protected]>
To: "Karen Jones" <[email protected]>
Cc: <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 11:05 AM
Subject: Re: [Community_garden] Get out and grow
Monsanto owns the genetic copyright to Camellia Sinensis? I thought
that
it
was a naturally occuring plant.
--- On Mon, 3/30/09, Karen Jones <[email protected]> wrote:
From: Karen Jones <[email protected]>
Subject: [Community_garden] Get out and grow
To: [email protected]
Date: Monday, March 30, 2009, 9:36 AM
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There is a bit of fear around these Farm Bills. Some of that fear
may be
justified, based on history. Fructose in America, for one. It is
banned
as
food substance in Europe and South America and Asia and Africa. But it
is
good for the corn farmers in the American Mid-West. Here in Canada we
have
the Percy Schmizer Affair. We should be mindful that Monsanto means
business. . He was an organic farmer who lived next door to Monsanto.
Man,
do not get Monsanto angry at you. Now it is just illegal to have some
kinds
of seeds, one day it maybe illegal to grow a garden. Monsanto owns the
genetic copyright to tea, Camellia sinensis, for example, and lots
more.
Who knows what will happen in the future?
But for now, Kate's comment on the farm Bills seems thoughtful and
reasoned.
Her suggestions to buy local and grow your own are ones that we
already
support. Rather than worry about the Nazi's invading Poland (and they
did a
lot more than just take over farming in Poland!, ) lets just get out
there
and grow. My two kilowatts. Karen
Ken
On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 10:05 PM, IMI 360 <[email protected]> wrote:
I'm intrigued. Why should our American gardening brethren be
adding 12
gauge shells to the supply list?
Paul Hughes
'I never put on a pair of shoes until I've worn them five years.'
Samuel
Goldwyn
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 18:30:24 -0500
From: Ken Hargesheimer <[email protected]>
Subject: [Community_garden] NAIS
To: Community Gardens <[email protected]>
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NAIS calls for anyone who owns even one livestock or poultry
animal ? *as a
pet or for their own food* ? to register their property with the
government,
individually tag each animal (in most cases with microchips or radio
frequency identification tags), and report a long list of ?events? to
privately run, for-profit databases. This one-size-fits-all
program will
not prevent or treat any animal disease. It provides no food safety
benefits
because it ends at the slaughterhouse, while the vast majority of
contamination leading to food-borne illnesses occurs at the
slaughterhouse
or in one of the processing facilities. In addition, the program
penalizes
small farmers and ranchers by requiring individual tagging for each
of their
animals, while creating a flock or herd exemption for large
operations. By
creating these preferences for factory farms, NAIS discourages the
very
farmers who are raising animals in a safe and humane way.
http://www.motherearthnews.com/Modern-Homesteading/Dear-Mother-
April-May-2009.aspx
Microchips has killed several dogs as they are dangerous. The NAIS
Gestapo
Agent can come on your lot or farm without your permission and do
what he
wants to do. It has happened already.
Ken Hargesheimer
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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 23:22:55 EDT
From: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Community_garden] Good Night and Good Luck
To: [email protected]
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O M G ! Unplug the computer for a few days of quiet seed starting
and see
what I missed? Mike, besides the knowledge you've imparted on this
list, I
will miss that great sense of humor, but above all you've long
provided the
voice of reason here.
I mean no disrespect to the other regular contributors here, but
honestly...this "big brother's out to get you attitude" is a real
turn off. Yes, I am
aware of what Monsanto is about, and just how deep they are into the
governmental pockets, but really, is all this fear mongering
necessary?
Someone provided a link the other day to a video, about the
Monsanto in
India, it truly was all about fear. I thought we all had enough
of that with the
last administration!
"So good-bye to yellow brick road...I'm going back to my plow!"
Just two cents worth from this mountain top farmer;
Tina
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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 06:30:26 +0000
From: Kristin Faurest <[email protected]>
Subject: [Community_garden] refugee gardens
To: <[email protected]>
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Here's a network of gardens actually in Bosnia, started by the
American Friends Service Committee, used by Serbs, Bosniaks, and
several other groups who are still recovering from the war... (I
had the honor of meeting Davor, the 'engine' behind it, at the ACGA
general meeting in Boston...)http://www.afsc.org/bosnia/ht/display/
ContentDetails/i/17665/pid/14190
From: Raja, Samina <[email protected]>
Subject: [Community_garden] question on refugee gardens
To: "[email protected]"
<[email protected]>
Date: Thursday, March 26, 2009, 1:16 PM
Dear Friends-
A non-profit group in Buffalo, NY is planning to start a community
garden for use by the refugee community.? We were wondering if
there are
other examples nationally of gardens used by refugees.? We know of
two,
one in Utica, NY, and one in Boise, Idaho.? Do you know of other
cities
where such community gardens exist? Any information would be greatly
appreciated.
Best,
Samina Raja
Buffalo, New York
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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 13:01:51 -0500
From: James Godsil <[email protected]>
Subject: [Community_garden] 40 Acre Wisconsin Farm Ready For
Mondragon
Type Community Builders
To: Community Gardens USA <[email protected]>
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Hello Fellow Community Builders,
The farm talked about here is on a ridgetop that lays out in 3
parcels of
40 acres each all adjoining in an east to west direction. The
farm land
is about 65 acres tillable with most of the fields having about
the same
amount of north facing vs south facing slope. The current
building layout
is with the house and barns and other buildings in about the
center of the
center parcel. There are about 30 acres of woods along the north
border
on steeper sloped ground. The rest is pasture and building land. The
ground has been organic for 12 years and is fertile enough with great
potential to be even more so with more intensive management. Nearby
sawmills and plowdown practices can dramatically increase organic
carbon
and mineral levels. Right now the seven horses generate collectable
winter manure/compost to build fertility in substantial garden
space every
year.
This year we are working on riding/driving trails around the fields.
There is a riding/training arena and a round pen for horse work
and/or
horse related kids activity. Horses can be great babysitters for
older
kids!
Most of the last 12 years have been dedicated to retiring debt and
restoring infrastructure. In fact, it was paid off once! There
is a 400
amp electrical service to the farm with a pole top disconnect and
a plug
in for on farm power generation. No generator yet. The roadways and
buildings have been restored such that drainage is good and even the
heaviest rains have not caused flooding or major washouts. The
well is
new a few years ago, and the water is quite good and clean. Most
of the
buildings have water and electricity. The top of the ridge has its
advantages for great solar collection, and most of the buildings
can be
retrofitted with various solar systems. And there are a number of
additional good south facing building sites. A cabin has been
started in
the woods, and there are several other remote locations for
additional
cabins to provide secluded living space or retreat space for
community
members or cabins for campers that are separated enough from each
other
that night raids with water balloons can be carried out without being
caught immediately!
The plan for community building is to give the land to the
community and
hold the land with some sort of entity whose responsibilities are for
stewardship and preservation without burdening it with financing
the lives
and businesses of those who live on the land. In this way those
who live
there would not have the burden to retire the debt but would
forego the
possession of the land and instead have use rights that would be
lifetime
but not transfer by blood to the next generation. In this way one
can
hope for the establishment of a larger "holding of community land"
similar
to the vision of responsibility to the land and belonging to the
land as
practised by native and aboriginal peoples all over the planet.
One can
hope for and work toward the contributions of others with their
lands and
buildings etc. that become a larger community asset that gets paid
off and
then NEVER put back into the hands of bankers or back onto "the
market"
such that more and more people are able to live without the burden
of a
mortgage and without the endless cycle of debt/payoff/sell
debt/payoff....that can only return land held in common back to
individual
ownership and all the anxiety, insecurity, and waste that system
creates.
This particular farm is a good starting place but really is already
looking for partners and practitioners of this philosophy by way
of some
who are here farming and others who are interested, have visited,
and are
thinking about it. Several have expressed interest to build
infrastructure
for healing center and kids camp and many other visions all of
which seem
compatible. I have also been in conversation with Native American
People
and others within Christian and Muslim church groups and others
inviting
the dialog about religious and spiritual groups working in a
collaborative
way to share or even join holdings in the ways presented here so that
people of limited financial means can participate and become true
members
of communal life that does not use capital as a distributor of power.
Send an e-mail to mondra...@milwaukeerenaissance if this interests
you
And I will put you in contact with the owner, who wrote letter.
Godsil
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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 11:06:28 +0900
From: Keith Addison <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Community_garden] growing with LED
To: <[email protected]>
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Hello Lisa
This might be of interest:
<http://www.Sunshine-Systems.com>www.Sunshine-Systems.com
You can select each product and read the descripton and tech specs
and the prices.
If you have any questions, contact Brad Buttrick of Sunshine Systems:
<[email protected]>
I don't have an interest to declare, Mr Buttrick wrote to me about
his systems, I'm simply passing it on.
From his email:
If you ever need a resource for Led Grow Lighting please let me
know. We are finding that commercial greenhouse owners looking to
cut costs are looking towards leds as an intelligent option. 85%
more efficient than HPS and MH. Typical lifespan over 50,000 hours.
Extremely safe....no issues with burning plants or exploding bulbs.
LEDs certainly work, with much lower power consumption than the metal
halides and so on. There doesn't seem to be a downside.
HTH - all best
Keith Addison
Journey to Forever
KYOTO Pref., Japan
http://journeytoforever.org/
I'm sorry if this has been covered before, but I just discovered a
really nice system for starting plants called the culinary Herbie
and it used LED (light emitting diode) lights (various colors). It
was the only one I've seen using soil as opposed to hydroponic so it
interested me for my students who have a community garden, but I've
never seen LED grow lights. I can't think why it wouldn't work, but
wondered if anyone had thoughts?
Lisa Dufresne
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