If the soil is toxic, all the more reason to remove the asphalt, eventually the roots will drive through the asphalt. Toxic soil can be removed.
Ray www.rayschutte.com -----Original Message----- From: Community_garden [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2014 5:54 PM To: Diane Dodge Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Community_garden] Gardening on rode base? Part of the point of greening our cities is to get rid of asphalt pavement. So if you want to have better drainage, and less runoff, gardens that provide root space, the depaving way is helpful. If the soil is toxic, I would think about a different location. Leslie Pohl-Kosbau ----- Original Message ----- From: "Diane Dodge" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2014 4:59:44 PM Subject: Re: [Community_garden] Gardening on rode base? I totally agree with Rashid and Diann. Digging down could uncover a multitude of contaminants. More sustainable, less work. In solidarity,Diane Dodge. St. Paul MN > From: [email protected] > Subject: Community_garden Digest, Vol 1785, Issue 1 > To: [email protected] > Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2014 16:54:00 -0500 > > Send Community_garden mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > http://list.communitygarden.org/mailman/listinfo/community_garden_list.communitygarden.org > > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [email protected] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [email protected] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Community_garden digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. gardening on road base? (Susan Finlayson) > 2. Re: gardening on road base? ([email protected]) > 3. Re: gardening on road base? ([email protected]) > 4. Re: gardening on road base? (K. Rashid Nuri) > 5. Re: gardening on road base? (Diann Dirks) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2014 13:32:09 -0700 > From: Susan Finlayson <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: [Community_garden] gardening on road base? > Message-ID: > <CAPD_gL-ZYYfWnguVn7pVkK_S2zXgm=e2uaofemnhmiwu47v...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Does anyone have experience building a community garden on a site covered > in road base? This is a parking lot, with the top layer of asphalt > removed, but about 18 inches of road base gravel. This would be for a > long-term, permanent garden. > > Any advice welcome! > > Susan Finlayson > Wasatch Community Gardens > Salt Lake City, UT > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://list.communitygarden.org/pipermail/community_garden_list.communitygarden.org/attachments/20141120/2d59d994/attachment.html> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2014 21:00:43 +0000 (UTC) > From: [email protected] > To: Susan Finlayson <[email protected]> > Cc: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Community_garden] gardening on road base? > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Could this be moved with a backhoe or shovel about 3 inches (enough to remove > the rock) and then that portion recycled to another gravel area? After that I > would suggest using? a plow sole bade to bread up the hard pan before adding > soil. This all needs to be tractor work. Does anyone else have suggestions? > We are going to be doing this as well this next year. > ? > Leslie Pohl-Kosbau > Friends of Portland Community Gardens > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Susan Finlayson" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2014 12:32:09 PM > Subject: [Community_garden] gardening on road base? > > Does anyone have experience building a community garden on a site covered > in road base? ?This is a parking lot, with the top layer of asphalt > removed, but about 18 inches of road base gravel. ?This would be for a > long-term, permanent garden. > > Any advice welcome! > > Susan Finlayson > Wasatch Community Gardens > Salt Lake City, UT > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://list.communitygarden.org/pipermail/community_garden_list.communitygarden.org/attachments/20141120/2d59d994/attachment.html> > > _______________________________________________ > The American Community Gardening Association listserve is only one of ACGA's > services to community gardeners. To learn more about the ACGA and to find out > how to join, please go to http://www.communitygarden.org > > To post an e-mail to the list: [email protected] > > To subscribe, unsubscribe or change your subscription: > ?http://list.communitygarden.org/mailman/listinfo/community_garden_list.communitygarden.org > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://list.communitygarden.org/pipermail/community_garden_list.communitygarden.org/attachments/20141120/4111a4cb/attachment.html> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2014 21:08:34 +0000 (UTC) > From: [email protected] > To: Susan Finlayson <[email protected]> > Cc: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Community_garden] gardening on road base? > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > That is:? Plow sole blade to break up the hard pan > ? > Sorry! > ? > Leslie > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Pohl-Kosbau, Leslie" <[email protected]> > To: "Susan Finlayson" <[email protected]> > Cc: [email protected] > Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2014 1:00:43 PM > Subject: Re: [Community_garden] gardening on road base? > > Could this be moved with a backhoe or shovel about 3 inches (enough to remove > the rock) and then that portion recycled to another gravel area? After that I > would suggest using? a plow sole bade to bread up the hard pan before adding > soil. This all needs to be tractor work. Does anyone else have suggestions? > We are going to be doing this as well this next year. > ? > Leslie Pohl-Kosbau > Friends of Portland Community Gardens > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Susan Finlayson" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2014 12:32:09 PM > Subject: [Community_garden] gardening on road base? > > Does anyone have experience building a community garden on a site covered > in road base? ?This is a parking lot, with the top layer of asphalt > removed, but about 18 inches of road base gravel. ?This would be for a > long-term, permanent garden. > > Any advice welcome! > > Susan Finlayson > Wasatch Community Gardens > Salt Lake City, UT > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://list.communitygarden.org/pipermail/community_garden_list.communitygarden.org/attachments/20141120/2d59d994/attachment.html> > > _______________________________________________ > The American Community Gardening Association listserve is only one of ACGA's > services to community gardeners. To learn more about the ACGA and to find out > how to join, please go to http://www.communitygarden.org > > To post an e-mail to the list: [email protected] > > To subscribe, unsubscribe or change your subscription: > ?http://list.communitygarden.org/mailman/listinfo/community_garden_list.communitygarden.org > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://list.communitygarden.org/pipermail/community_garden_list.communitygarden.org/attachments/20141120/4111a4cb/attachment.html> > > _______________________________________________ > The American Community Gardening Association listserve is only one of ACGA's > services to community gardeners. To learn more about the ACGA and to find out > how to join, please go to http://www.communitygarden.org > > To post an e-mail to the list: [email protected] > > To subscribe, unsubscribe or change your subscription: > ?http://list.communitygarden.org/mailman/listinfo/community_garden_list.communitygarden.org > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://list.communitygarden.org/pipermail/community_garden_list.communitygarden.org/attachments/20141120/d2e18d82/attachment.html> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2014 21:17:45 +0000 (UTC) > From: "K. Rashid Nuri" <[email protected]> > To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>, Susan > Finlayson <[email protected]> > Cc: "[email protected]" > <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Community_garden] gardening on road base? > Message-ID: > > <394810169.2254758.1416518265878.javamail.ya...@jws100106.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > why not go up instead of going down. build raised beds. this will make the > work easier, will not require a tractor and make mitigating soil contaminants > much easier. > ? > > > K. Rashid Nuri > > Truly Living Well > P.O. Box 90841 > East Point GA 30364 > Phone:?404 520 8331 > > VISIT OUR ?WEBSITE: > www.trulylivingwell.com > > It is simply service that measures success. - George Washington Carver > > From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > To: Susan Finlayson <[email protected]> > Cc: [email protected] > Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2014 4:08 PM > Subject: Re: [Community_garden] gardening on road base? > > That is:? Plow sole blade to break up the hard pan > ? > Sorry! > ? > Leslie > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Pohl-Kosbau, Leslie" <[email protected]> > To: "Susan Finlayson" <[email protected]> > Cc: [email protected] > Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2014 1:00:43 PM > Subject: Re: [Community_garden] gardening on road base? > > Could this be moved with a backhoe or shovel about 3 inches (enough to remove > the rock) and then that portion recycled to another gravel area? After that I > would suggest using? a plow sole bade to bread up the hard pan before adding > soil. This all needs to be tractor work. Does anyone else have suggestions? > We are going to be doing this as well this next year. > ? > Leslie Pohl-Kosbau > Friends of Portland Community Gardens > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Susan Finlayson" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2014 12:32:09 PM > Subject: [Community_garden] gardening on road base? > > Does anyone have experience building a community garden on a site covered > in road base? ?This is a parking lot, with the top layer of asphalt > removed, but about 18 inches of road base gravel. ?This would be for a > long-term, permanent garden. > > Any advice welcome! > > Susan Finlayson > Wasatch Community Gardens > Salt Lake City, UT > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://list.communitygarden.org/pipermail/community_garden_list.communitygarden.org/attachments/20141120/2d59d994/attachment.html> > > _______________________________________________ > The American Community Gardening Association listserve is only one of ACGA's > services to community gardeners. To learn more about the ACGA and to find out > how to join, please go to http://www.communitygarden.org > > To post an e-mail to the list: [email protected] > > To subscribe, unsubscribe or change your subscription: > ?http://list.communitygarden.org/mailman/listinfo/community_garden_list.communitygarden.org > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://list.communitygarden.org/pipermail/community_garden_list.communitygarden.org/attachments/20141120/4111a4cb/attachment.html> > > _______________________________________________ > The American Community Gardening Association listserve is only one of ACGA's > services to community gardeners. To learn more about the ACGA and to find out > how to join, please go to http://www.communitygarden.org > > To post an e-mail to the list: [email protected] > > To subscribe, unsubscribe or change your subscription: > ?http://list.communitygarden.org/mailman/listinfo/community_garden_list.communitygarden.org > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://list.communitygarden.org/pipermail/community_garden_list.communitygarden.org/attachments/20141120/d2e18d82/attachment.html> > > > > _______________________________________________ > The American Community Gardening Association listserve is only one of ACGA's > services to community gardeners. To learn more about the ACGA and to find out > how to join, please go to http://www.communitygarden.org > > To post an e-mail to the list:? 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(thegardenladyofga.wordpress.com) > Permaculture Designer, Auburn, Ga. > > -----Original Message----- > From: K. Rashid Nuri > Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2014 4:17 PM > To: [email protected] ; Susan Finlayson > Cc: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Community_garden] gardening on road base? > > why not go up instead of going down. build raised beds. this will make the > work easier, will not require a tractor and make mitigating soil > contaminants much easier. > > > > K. Rashid Nuri > > Truly Living Well > P.O. Box 90841 > East Point GA 30364 > Phone: 404 520 8331 > > VISIT OUR WEBSITE: > www.trulylivingwell.com > > It is simply service that measures success. - George Washington Carver > > From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > To: Susan Finlayson <[email protected]> > Cc: [email protected] > Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2014 4:08 PM > Subject: Re: [Community_garden] gardening on road base? > > That is: Plow sole blade to break up the hard pan > > Sorry! > > Leslie > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Pohl-Kosbau, Leslie" <[email protected]> > To: "Susan Finlayson" <[email protected]> > Cc: [email protected] > Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2014 1:00:43 PM > Subject: Re: [Community_garden] gardening on road base? > > Could this be moved with a backhoe or shovel about 3 inches (enough to > remove the rock) and then that portion recycled to another gravel area? > After that I would suggest using a plow sole bade to bread up the hard pan > before adding soil. This all needs to be tractor work. Does anyone else have > suggestions? We are going to be doing this as well this next year. > > Leslie Pohl-Kosbau > Friends of Portland Community Gardens > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Susan Finlayson" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2014 12:32:09 PM > Subject: [Community_garden] gardening on road base? > > Does anyone have experience building a community garden on a site covered > in road base? This is a parking lot, with the top layer of asphalt > removed, but about 18 inches of road base gravel. 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