On 10 Jul 2005, at 22:15, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Is it possible that ED meant something other then educational? Could it have meant European Edition or Distribution, or EnhanceD or Enhanced Distribution, or something to that effect?

No!

I find it interesting that I can't find a single mention of an "ED" model anywhere on Apple's site. I mean why pawn off 512ke Macs on the European schools exclusively -- what, they didn't have a need for more than half a MB?

Apple didn't want to admit to its commercial customers that education customers were saving big $$$! An exact parallel are the SE 1/20 and SE 1/40 models, which some people denied existed as models with those words on the front panel, because Apple never list them. They do exist; they, again, were sold into the edu market in 'mainland' Europe, at significant savings over commercial models that were the same except for the logo.

UK schools would have liked more memory, but remember what memory cost in the mid 1980s. The fact that many 512ke EDs seem to have been upgraded to Plus spec show that many schools probably bought the 512ke EDs first, then upgraded after a year or so, when more money was available and they'd gone mad with 512K.

This must have been one of Jean Luis Gassee's ideas. Stuart are you sure the Plus ED was only sold in the US? I can't seem to confirm anyone in the US with one.

No - I hope I didn't say that. I'm pretty sure that the 512ED was NOT sold in the US. So, only the Plus ED was sold in the US, but also elsewhere. I have in the past found 'traces' of Plus EDs being sold in the US. I now believe that Plus EDs were sold in 'mainland' Europe. I have no evidence of Plus EDs being sold in the UK.

For evidence (not proof!) of Plus EDs being sold in the US (but labelled simply as ED, because there was no need to distinguish from the 512k model as it wasn't sold in the US, see

http://www.jagshouse.com/macplus.html

http://www.apple-history.com/frames/


You are right that none of the backs were different than the principle production models, but the info sticker would have been, just like the sticker on the 512ke ED that indicates the model number as M0001D. My guess is the Mac Plus ED would have been M0001AD?

The European descriptions of Plus EDs all suggest AP, like Plusses made in Europe.

Surely there would have to be some inventory control method to distinguish between the Mac Pluses with the "ED" bezels and the regular ones. And as long as I'm asking, What did the "W" mean for the stock 512k model number and what does the "AP" mean on the European Plus model number?

The pickle lists W for 512k and E for 512Ke and D for the 512K ED and A for the Plus. (I think I missed the 'D' in a posting yesterday). The 'P' could well indicate 22v rather than 11v models?

Stuart


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