----- Oorspronkelijk bericht ----- Van: Don Dailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Datum: zaterdag, januari 20, 2007 9:06 pm Onderwerp: Re: [computer-go] an idea for a new measure of a computer go program's rank.
> Years ago A player in the chess > club kept beating me over the head with a non-standard > opening move that was difficult to refute. I got sick > of this, sat down in the privacy of my own home and > didn't get back up until I discovered the correct > response. In effect I consulted a much stronger > player, myself, given a lot of extra time. I think > I spent about 2 hours on this - so it was as if I consulted > a player a few hundred ELO points stronger. I found > a move I had no chance of finding in 20 or 30 seconds, > even after repeated ad-hoc unstructured attempts. > > As soon as a started playing this move, my opponent > stopped using it and he had to work harder to beat me. > > It seems really odd to me that you are incapable of > doing this in GO, or that the games are too different. > > If that's the case, then I prefer Chess, it is a far > deeper game. I would find any game boring if it was > so limited that there is nothing to think about that > can't be seen in just a few moments. > In my opinion in Go a game leaves the "standard" opening book very quickly, usually early in the opening. There are so many ways to play in the opening. If you opponent is trying to manipulate you into his favourite joseki(the taisha joseki for instance, with its proverbial 1000 variations), you have so many options to avoid it. But usually you just don't know what my opponent will play, so preparing for a particulal opponent is usually a waste of time. In my opinion, the difference is that in Go the possibity of variation is so great that a player is forced to rely on his own strength much earlier in the game than in Chess (in relation to the full length of a game). My level is 4d. For me the way to improve my results is studying professional games and Go problems. The aim is to get a very wide and general knowledge, more than a very deep knowledge of particular situations, because the level of variation in Go is so great. By improving you general knowledge of the game, you improve you ability to handle all those unique situations for which you cannot prepare in particular. Dave _______________________________________________ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/