Le 24/11/2009 à 00:24, dhillism...@netscape.net a écrit : > > For my fast/dumb neural net engine, Antbot9x9, I coevolved the weights using > a similar tournament system. Each individual played a number of games against > all the others, round robin, and the score was the sum of points for all of > its games. > > Some observations/claims: > Non-transitive effects seem more visible. Consistently overplaying garners > extra points from weak opponents but needlessly loses extra points against > strong ones. It becomes more important to play your opponent as well as the > board: if you think that you have him outmatched, take some risky gambles, > overplay. Every game in the tournament matters, right till the end of that > game. > > I think it could be interesting to try some bot tournaments like this. It > might be fun to watch. When the strongest bot was playing the weakest, even > near the (painfully one-sided) end of the game there would be an element of > suspense. The stronger bot would (or should) be trying to swindle a few last > extra points it didn't deserve, and the fate of the tournament could hinge on > it. > > - Dave Hillis >
In another thread Nick Wedd wrote: > The December KGS bot tournament will be 9x9. I guess that if a > cluster-Zen competes in that (I am hoping it will), it will be > unbeatable. > > The existing pattern of KGS bot tournaments (see > http://www.weddslist.com/kgs/future.html) means that the January one > will also be 9x9, then February and March will both be 19x19. > ... Is there a possibility for an Hahn tournament on KGS ? maybe with simplified rules: one point on board is one point in tournament ( (c) R.Jasiek ) If i understand what D.Hillis said, it can put in light some hidden aspects of the bots, and should be more spectacular than the wise-sure-win style of MC *Go* bots. And i guess it does not require lot of change in the code, "only" points instead of win/loss in the evaluation function should do the trick. I hope several strong programmers would like to participate, for fun and maybe discover several things in their code by pushing it to unusual limits. Alain. _______________________________________________ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/
