Hi Hiroshi,

Yes, Weights_33_400 was trained on 9x9. None of the Weights bot uses playouts. 
I experimented training different network architectures with the same self-play 
data, so that's why newer networks are not necessarily stronger than older ones.

Rémi

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De: "Hiroshi Yamashita" <y...@bd.mbn.or.jp>
À: computer-go@computer-go.org
Envoyé: Mercredi 28 Février 2018 23:24:02
Objet: Re: [Computer-go] Crazy Stone is back

Hi Remi,

Wow, "Weights" is your engine. So my guess was right :-)
In 9x9 CGOS, did you train in 9x9, or just use 19x19 network?
Weights_33_400 is stronger than Weights_40_400.
Maybe it is because Weights_33_400 use CrazyStone's playout, and
  Weights_40_400 does not use?

Thanks,
Hiroshi Yamashita

On 2018/02/28 15:13, Rémi Coulom wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I have just connected the newest version of Crazy Stone to CGOS. It is based 
> on the AlphaZero approach. The "Weights" engine were in fact previous 
> experimental versions. CrazyStone-18.03 is using time control and pondering 
> instead of a fixed number of evaluations per move. So it should be much 
> stronger than Weights_31_3200.
> 
> Does anybody know who cronus is? It is _extremely_ strong. Its rating is low 
> because it has had only weaker opponents, but it is undefeated so far, except 
> for one loss on time, and some losses against other versions of itself. It 
> has just won two games in a row against Crazy Stone.
> 
> I hope the other strong engines will reconnect, too.
> 
> Rémi
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