Tysvm for the clarification, Tokumoto. On Thu, Dec 6, 2018, 8:02 PM 甲斐徳本 <tokumoto...@gmail.com wrote:
> What's insane about it? > To me, what Jim O'Flaherty stated is common sense in the field of patents, > and any patent attorney would attest to that. If I may add, Jim's last > sentence should read "Google's patent application" instead of "Google's > patent". The difference is huge, and this may be in the heart of the > issue, which is not well understood by the general public. > > In other words, thousands of patent applications are filed in the world > without any hope of the patent eventually being granted, to establish > "prior art" thereby protecting what's described in it from being patented > by somebody else. > > Or, am I responding to a troll? > > Tokumoto > > > On Fri, Dec 7, 2018 at 10:01 AM uurtamo <uurt...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> You're insane. >> >> On Thu, Dec 6, 2018, 4:13 PM Jim O'Flaherty <jim.oflaherty...@gmail.com >> wrote: >> >>> Remember, patents are a STRATEGIC mechanism as well as a legal >>> mechanism. As soon as a patent is publically filed (for example, as >>> utility, and following provisional), the text and claims in the patent >>> immediately become prior art globally as of the original filing date >>> REGARDLESS of whether the patent is eventually approved or rejected. IOW, a >>> patent filing is a mechanism to ensure no one else can make a similar claim >>> without risking this filing being used as a possible prior art refutation. >>> >>> I know this only because it is a strategy option my company is using in >>> an entirely different unrelated domain. The patent filing is defensive such >>> that someone else cannot make a claim and take our inventions away from us >>> just because the coincidentally hit near our inventions. >>> >>> So considering Google's past and their participation in the OIN, it is >>> very likely Google's patent is ensuring the ground all around this area is >>> sufficiently salted to stop anyone from attempting to exploit nearby patent >>> claims. >>> >>> >>> Respectfully, >>> >>> Jim O'Flaherty >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Dec 6, 2018 at 5:44 PM Erik van der Werf < >>> erikvanderw...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> On Thu, Dec 6, 2018 at 11:28 PM Rémi Coulom <remi.cou...@free.fr> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Also, the AlphaZero algorithm is patented: >>>>> https://patentscope2.wipo.int/search/en/detail.jsf?docId=WO2018215665 >>>>> >>>> >>>> So far it just looks like an application (and I don't think it will be >>>> be difficult to oppose, if you care about this) >>>> >>>> Erik >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Computer-go mailing list >>>> Computer-go@computer-go.org >>>> http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Computer-go mailing list >>> Computer-go@computer-go.org >>> http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Computer-go mailing list >> Computer-go@computer-go.org >> http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go > > _______________________________________________ > Computer-go mailing list > Computer-go@computer-go.org > http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go
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