kata-bot on OGS is intended for human players on OGS and is never guaranteed to be any particular version (certainly not an up-to-date version) nor have any specific fixed settings. You should generally not use it for testing - just download KataGo and run it yourself (in Lizzie, or Sabaki, or whatever) if you want reliable settings.
The "aggressive" version that I mentioned in my last email is running on cgos, not on OGS. On Fri, May 8, 2020 at 8:23 PM Kyle Biedermann <crescentmoo...@gmail.com> wrote: > Sounds fun and interesting experiment, I have noticed the increase in > preference to the 4-4 as of lately across the majority of AI. I still > prefer the 5-5 opening it seems to hold against Katago at the moment. Maybe > i'll test out some things to see if it can find some interesting new moves. > Is it still the Kata-bot account on OGS?. > > Kyle Biedermann > Creator of Deep Scholar > > On Fri, May 8, 2020 at 3:28 PM David Wu <lightvec...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I'm running a new account of KataGo that is set to bias towards >> aggressive or difficult moves now (the same way it does in 19x19 handicap >> games), to see what the effect is. Although, it seems like some people have >> stopped running their bots. Still maybe it will be interesting for the >> remaining players, or any others who decide to re-turn-on their bot for a >> little while. :) >> >> It seems like some fraction of the time, it now opens on 5-5 as black, >> which is judged as worse than 4-4 in an even game, but presumably is more >> difficult to play. I suspect it will now start to lose a noticeable number >> of games now due to overplaying, and there's a good chance it does much >> worse overall. Even so, I'm curious what will happen, and what the draw >> rate will be. Suddenly having some 5-5 openings should certainly add some >> variety to the games. >> >> On Thu, May 7, 2020 at 12:41 PM David Wu <lightvec...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Having it matter which of the stones you capture there is fascinating. >>> Thanks for the analysis - and thanks for "organizing" this 9x9 testing >>> party. :) >>> >>> On Thu, May 7, 2020 at 12:06 PM Rémi Coulom <remi.cou...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> If White recaptures the Ko, then Black can play at White's 56, capture >>>> the stone, and win by 2 points. >>>> >>>> On Thu, May 7, 2020 at 5:02 PM Shawn Ligocki <sligo...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Thanks for sharing the games, Rémi! >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, May 7, 2020 at 6:27 AM Rémi Coulom <remi.cou...@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> In this game, Crazy Stone won using a typical Monte Carlo trick: >>>>>> http://www.yss-aya.com/cgos/viewer.cgi?9x9/SGF/2020/05/07/997390.sgf >>>>>> On move 27, it sacrificed a stone. According to Crazy Stone, the game >>>>>> would have been a draw had Aya just re-captured it. But Aya took the bait >>>>>> and captured the other stone. Crazy Stone's evaluation became instantly >>>>>> winning after this, the sacrificed stone serving as a threat for the >>>>>> winning ko fight, 18 moves later. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Wow, I did not imagine how that move would be useful later! But the >>>>> very end is confusing to my human brain, couldn't White move 56 retake the >>>>> ko and win it? It seems like Black only has one real ko threat left (J4 >>>>> maybe). But White also has one huge threat left (D3), so it seems like >>>>> White should win this ko and then be about 4 ahead with komi. Am I >>>>> missing something? >>>>> >>>>> -Shawn >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Computer-go mailing list >>>>> Computer-go@computer-go.org >>>>> http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Computer-go mailing list >>>> Computer-go@computer-go.org >>>> http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >> Computer-go mailing list >> Computer-go@computer-go.org >> http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go >> > _______________________________________________ > Computer-go mailing list > Computer-go@computer-go.org > http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go >
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