dear Robert,Don,

On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 1:36 PM, Robert Jasiek <jas...@snafu.de> wrote:
> Would chess instead with superko be much more interesting for combinatorics?

On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 2:28 PM, Don Dailey <dailey....@gmail.com> wrote:
> If there were no 50 move rule in chess,  how would that change the
> calculation?

If we disregard the 50-move rule, then we're left with the three-fold
repetition rule
as a means of avoiding infinite games. As stated, this merely allows
either side to
claim a draw, but for our purposes we must assume it forces a draw upon a third
repetition.

A superko rule may seem like a one-fold repetition rule, but is subtly
different,
since it forbids the repetition, rather than rule it a draw. Of
course, if no other
legal moves remain, then it becomes a draw by stalemate. But it may also force
a player to choose a losing alternative.

With either rule, chess games can be exponentially long, although determining
lower and upper bounds is so much harder than in go, because of the complex
piece movements...

regards,
-John
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