On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 8:01 PM, Jouni Valkonen <jounivalko...@gmail.com>wrote:

> Wow, this is great. I believe it is the greatest gobot challenge game
> since gobots learned to beat pros at 9×9 board. Does we have Tromp's blitz
> games against CS and ZenD for a reference?
>
> I think that the most interesting thing will be, who really will benefit
> more for the longer thinking times. The gobot or human? Eight times more
> playouts versus human's inability to decide?!
>
The human will benefit more from the additional playing time,  this
principle I almost consider an axiom when comparing computer to human in
games.       If humans have an inability to decide (which I dispute) than
granting additional thinking time is not going to be a handicap to a human
player,  it will only enhance the decision making process.

It will be an interesting match.   On paper I think the program is
stronger,  but I don't have a lot of confidence at this point for the
program.     I give John Tromp the better chances, especially with these
longer time controls.

Don


           —Jouni
> On Jan 11, 2012 1:55 AM, "Darren Cook" <dar...@dcook.org> wrote:
>
>> <announce style="boxing match">The Bet Is Back and its Bigger and Better
>> Than Ever.</announce>
>>
>> Many of you followed the Go Bet event in London at the end of 2010,
>> where John Tromp triumphed and I was forced to hand over the $1000. Now
>> it is time to see if the bots have improved in the past 12
>> months, as John will play another match with a computer program.
>>
>>  When: During January 2012 (exactly when will be announced soon)
>>  Where: On KGS
>>  Format: Best-of-5 (first to three wins)
>>  Rules: Chinese, 7.5pt komi
>>  Time: 90 minutes each, with byo-yomi of 25 stones per 10 minutes
>>  Hardware: (to be announced)
>>
>> Yamato, the author of Zen, was reluctant to take part a year ago, unsure
>> of the outcome. Well, this year he has agreed to take part. A sign the
>> machines have improved... or just over-confidence?
>>
>> Darren
>>
>> P.S. The match is online this time, and there is no wager, so my only
>> involvement is the publicity :-)
>>
>>
>> --
>> Darren Cook, Software Researcher/Developer
>>
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