In politics and computers, too many feel a different view is stupidity and not just a different view.
On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 3:23 PM, db <db...@att.net> wrote: > That's why I was making my sacrilegious critique of some of Apple's OS bad > points that cause many people unnecessary difficulty. If the IT literate > don't/ can't see the problem, it will never be fixed and the system remains > unaccountable. > > With some of the name calling and righteous huffing and puffing that > resulted from my OS X comments, some of you Computerguys sounded like the > people defending Wall Street / the bad parts of the bailout or our > continuous wars in Iraq/Afghanistan. > > Pointed criticism isn't a bad thing / unpatriotic.... it's how the > accountability process begins. > > If things are broke... or inefficient and bothersome ... they should be > fixed for the benefit of everyone and if it's just they don't bother you ... > you might give people some credit for their concerns. Insisting they are > wrong just makes you part of the metaphysical problem. > > What do you really know of other's realities? Give people some credit and > empowerment sometimes for knowing something that makes no sense to you. > Particularly when they are working hard and in substantial ways at it. > Saying "Red" is "Blue" over and over again is a recipe for nothing good in > particular... > > I bet most everyone has learned that lesson a few times with their > significant other. > If they haven't, they are no doubt living alone.. > > db > > > mike wrote: > >> My point was that part of the problem is that when things get too big they >> are unaccountable because they don't have to be. WM was untouched for >> years >> because nothing challanged them...the post office is run like crap because >> no matter what they know they will keep getting money....unaccountable. >> >> On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 1:01 PM, db <db...@att.net> wrote: >> >> >> >>> I don't see the connection you are making between mature product cycles >>> and >>> government and WM. >>> >>> To my mind, WM is an uninspired mediocre downscaled desktop OS product >>> from >>> a provider with bad juju. Did it ever mature? >>> >>> Governments ... have been both good and bad. The good ones were probably >>> the ones that developed to a mature level. The bad ones are when they >>> rot >>> sometime thereafter... when citizens stop maintaining them. >>> >>> ?? >>> >>> db >>> >>> >>> >>> mike wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>> I don't think it's a good thing, that's where you get things that are >>>> unaccountable like government or windows mobile. Take your pick of >>>> evil. >>>> >>>> On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 8:01 AM, Reid Katan <ka...@his.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Quoting db <db...@att.net>: >>>>> >>>>> That is why OS's need to and will eventually get over their >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> proprietaryness and look and work essentially the same. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> Is homogenization really a Good Thing? Doesn't leave much room for >>>>> innovation. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ************************************************************************* >>>>> ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy >>>>> ** >>>>> ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/** >>>>> >>>>> ************************************************************************* >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> ************************************************************************* >>>> ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy >>>> ** >>>> ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** >>>> >>>> ************************************************************************* >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> ************************************************************************* >>> ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** >>> ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** >>> ************************************************************************* >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> ************************************************************************* >> ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** >> ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** >> ************************************************************************* >> >> >> > > > ************************************************************************* > ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** > ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** > ************************************************************************* > ************************************************************************* ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *************************************************************************