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1a. Re: Gender of rivers - and other waters.    
    From: caeruleancentaur
1b. Re: Gender of rivers - and other waters.    
    From: Lars Finsen


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1a. Re: Gender of rivers - and other waters.
    Posted by: "caeruleancentaur" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
    Date: Fri Oct 3, 2008 10:41 am ((PDT))

> Lars Finsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> It struck me that the Suraetuan rivers all have masculine endings,  
> and I guess the Suraetuans must think of their waters as a kind of  
> semen that fertilises the Earth. Maybe you people who have such wide  
> repertoires of languages can tell me how common this is? Of course,  
> many languages don't have a gender system. Of the languages I know  
> anything about, at least German has a masculine word for river, but  
> the majority of the others seem to be feminine. How are you dealing  
> with this in your conlangs?

Senjecas has six classes of nouns.  All things being equal, rivers 
would go in the -os class, the class of perceptible objects.

However, the mythology of the Senjecans puts certain natural phenomena 
in the -es class, the animate class.  These phenomena include sun, 
moon, stars, planets, earth, wind, oceans/seas, and rivers (brooks, 
streams, etc.).  It looks as though "self-" movement might be the 
criterion for including these phenomena in the animate class.

Charlie


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1b. Re: Gender of rivers - and other waters.
    Posted by: "Lars Finsen" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
    Date: Fri Oct 3, 2008 11:00 am ((PDT))

Den 3. okt. 2008 kl. 19.31 skreiv caeruleancentaur:

> Senjecas has six classes of nouns.  All things being equal, rivers
> would go in the -os class, the class of perceptible objects.
>
> However, the mythology of the Senjecans puts certain natural phenomena
> in the -es class, the animate class.  These phenomena include sun,
> moon, stars, planets, earth, wind, oceans/seas, and rivers (brooks,
> streams, etc.).  It looks as though "self-" movement might be the
> criterion for including these phenomena in the animate class.

That's interesting. It seems Suraetuans don't do quite the same  
thing, because while pora, water, is a masculine (a-class), pofu,  
wave, is an abstract or neuter (u-class).

LEF


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