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Topics in this digest:
1a. Re: Pluractional Verbs
From: Alex Fink
1b. Re: Pluractional Verbs
From: Leland Kusmer
1c. Re: Pluractional Verbs
From: neo gu
2a. Re: Saltani Phonology/Phonotactics
From: Roman Rausch
2b. Re: Saltani Phonology/Phonotactics
From: Leila Kalomi
2c. Re: Saltani Phonology/Phonotactics
From: Nathan Unanymous
3.1. Re: YAEPT: Gloucester and Worcester
From: Peter Collier
3.2. Re: YAEPT: Gloucester and Worcester
From: R A Brown
3.3. Re: YAEPT: Gloucester and Worcester
From: Daniel Prohaska
4a. Re: OT: Conlang Camping Trip (WAS: making an oral conlang)
From: Jim Henry
4b. Re: OT: Conlang Camping Trip (WAS: making an oral conlang)
From: Lee
4c. Re: OT: Conlang Camping Trip (WAS: making an oral conlang)
From: Andreas Johansson
5a. Professional naming
From: Sai Emrys
5b. Re: Professional naming
From: Mechthild Czapp
5c. Re: Professional naming
From: Daniel Nielsen
6a. Re: Unnamed Language Phonology
From: Garth Wallace
6b. Re: Unnamed Language Phonology
From: G. van der Vegt
6c. Re: Unnamed Language Phonology
From: Eugene Oh
7a. Re: Naming systems
From: Mechthild Czapp
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1a. Re: Pluractional Verbs
Posted by: "Alex Fink" 000...@gmail.com
Date: Sat Sep 4, 2010 4:41 pm ((PDT))
On Sat, 4 Sep 2010 17:56:39 -0400, Anthony Miles <mamercu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>I'm almost done with the basic grammar (13 pages!) of "proper" Na'gifi Fasu'xa.
>The last section is a section on reduplicated roots. The actual reduplication
>pattern will be based on Washo root-reduplication, but the meaning, at least
>for the verbs, will be typically pluractional. I tried searching the conlang
>archive for 'pluractionality' and 'pluractional verbs', but found nothing.
I find it
>hard to believe that this subject has never come up. Has anybody used
>pluractionality in their conlangs? Any advice? Any warnings?
My Sabasasaj has a pluractional, I suppose. It's kinda overshadowed by the
presence of agreement with two arguments that strongly expresses number, so
it can't be used simply to mark argument plurality; but it can be used for
distributivity of a plural argument:
huis siwthuaaawniw kunridul (men chest lift.up) "the men lift the chest",
assumedly all together
huis siwthuaaawniw kukunridul "the men each lift the chest"
But I've mostly had occasion to use it for frequentative or iterative or
gnomic meanings so far.
Alex
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1b. Re: Pluractional Verbs
Posted by: "Leland Kusmer" lelandp...@thypyramids.com
Date: Sat Sep 4, 2010 5:53 pm ((PDT))
I've not come across the term before (would just use "iterative",
myself), but a brief ANADEW: I was recently doing fieldwork on
Twi/Fante/Akan in Ghana, and one of my infomants got into a heated
debate with a passerby during a session about whether it was possible
to use a non-reduplicated (and thus non-iterative/pluractional) verb
with a plural object. Reduplication of this sort happens as
derivational morphology for most speakers, it seems, but some do seem
to turn it into (effectively) object number agreement.
I particulary liked how it interacted with mass nouns in Twi: While in
English we pluralize mass nouns to get the sense if "several units"
("Kofi and Ama drank water(s)."), in Twi the strategy is to
reduplicated the verb ("Kofi na Ama nyum(-nyum) nsu.")
-Leland
On Saturday, September 4, 2010, Alex Fink <000...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 4 Sep 2010 17:56:39 -0400, Anthony Miles <mamercu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>I'm almost done with the basic grammar (13 pages!) of "proper" Na'gifi
>>Fasu'xa.
>>The last section is a section on reduplicated roots. The actual reduplication
>>pattern will be based on Washo root-reduplication, but the meaning, at least
>>for the verbs, will be typically pluractional. I tried searching the conlang
>>archive for 'pluractionality' and 'pluractional verbs', but found nothing.
> I find it
>>hard to believe that this subject has never come up. Has anybody used
>>pluractionality in their conlangs? Any advice? Any warnings?
>
> My Sabasasaj has a pluractional, I suppose. It's kinda overshadowed by the
> presence of agreement with two arguments that strongly expresses number, so
> it can't be used simply to mark argument plurality; but it can be used for
> distributivity of a plural argument:
> huis siwthuaaawniw kunridul (men chest lift.up) "the men lift the chest",
> assumedly all together
> huis siwthuaaawniw kukunridul "the men each lift the chest"
> But I've mostly had occasion to use it for frequentative or iterative or
> gnomic meanings so far.
>
> Alex
>
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1c. Re: Pluractional Verbs
Posted by: "neo gu" qiihos...@gmail.com
Date: Sat Sep 4, 2010 5:57 pm ((PDT))
On Sat, 4 Sep 2010 17:23:35 -0500, Eric Christopherson
<ra...@charter.net> wrote:
>On Sep 4, 2010, at 4:56 PM, Anthony Miles wrote:
>
>> I'm almost done with the basic grammar (13 pages!) of "proper" Na'gifi
>> Fasu'xa. The last section is a section on reduplicated roots. The actual
>> reduplication pattern will be based on Washo root-reduplication, but the
>> meaning, at least for the verbs, will be typically pluractional. I tried
>> searching the conlang archive for 'pluractionality' and 'pluractional verbs',
>> but found nothing. I find it hard to believe that this subject has never
>> come up. Has anybody used pluractionality in their conlangs? Any advice?
>> Any warnings?
I haven't really used it but I'm glad someone is.
>
>One problem I have is with intransitive verbs that mean things like "to have
X", e.g. "to have a hand". What I *want* is for an expression like "I have-a-
hand" marked for pluractionality to mean "I have hands", but according to my
rules (and IIRC the general tendency of verbal plurality in natlangs), it
should
instead impart plurality on "I", since that's the subject. Must do some more
thinking on this. (I don't want to simply make possessive verbs into transitive
verbs.)
>
I've gotten the impression from what little I've read, that pluractionality (as
opposed to simple plurality) is more associated with the object (or patient).
AFMCL: K'tl� has some lexicalized partial reduplication. It makes certain
dynamic verbs iterative and it makes a few spatial verbs statically
distributive.
Also, "ready" comes from the reduplicated form of the same root used as the
prospective aspect suffix.
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2a. Re: Saltani Phonology/Phonotactics
Posted by: "Roman Rausch" ara...@mail.ru
Date: Sat Sep 4, 2010 4:43 pm ((PDT))
>Two-consonant clusters are allowed
>anywhere but the beginning and end of a word
In the translation of 'fiat lingua' you used _ksin_ 'to make, do' - doesn't
that count as a consonant cluster?
Overall, the language looks very intriguing, with its own style. So please
do tell more about it.
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2b. Re: Saltani Phonology/Phonotactics
Posted by: "Leila Kalomi" leila_kal...@yahoo.com
Date: Sat Sep 4, 2010 5:07 pm ((PDT))
On Sat, 4 Sep 2010 19:42:34 -0400, Roman Rausch <ara...@mail.ru> wrote:
>>Two-consonant clusters are allowed
>>anywhere but the beginning and end of a word
>
>In the translation of 'fiat lingua' you used _ksin_ 'to make, do' - doesn't
>that count as a consonant cluster?
Err, yeah. I did that a bit hastily, and added the rule about consonant
clusters afterwards. There are one or two other things in that set of
translations that probably aren't accurate any more. I wonder if I should
bother to rectify that when I'm sure what's what...
>Overall, the language looks very intriguing, with its own style. So please
>do tell more about it.
I certainly shall, as soon as the current set of Saltani growing pains are
over. The phonology is about the only thing I'm certain enough of to post yet.
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2c. Re: Saltani Phonology/Phonotactics
Posted by: "Nathan Unanymous" nathanms...@gmail.com
Date: Sat Sep 4, 2010 9:21 pm ((PDT))
I agree - basic sounds + laterals.
However, your romanization system isn't uniform.
I would suggest c /ts/ rl /4_l/, sl /K/, l /l/, h /x/, ng /N/,
or rh, sh if you think that look better.
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3.1. Re: YAEPT: Gloucester and Worcester
Posted by: "Peter Collier" petecoll...@btinternet.com
Date: Sat Sep 4, 2010 5:41 pm ((PDT))
Ah, transcription. Never my strong point. You could well be right - I can't
tell for sure if it's /@n/ or /n/. But for me at least it's trisyllabic , so
either /gl{s=tn=bri:/ or /gl{...@n=bri:/.
-----Original Message-----
From: Constructed Languages List [mailto:conl...@listserv.brown.edu] On
Behalf Of Lars Finsen
Sent: 04 September 2010 17:38
To: conl...@listserv.brown.edu
Subject: Re: YAEPT: Gloucester and Worcester
Den 4. sep. 2010 kl. 02.43 skreiv Peter Collier:
> Glastonbury /gl...@nbri:/
Not /gl{stn=bri:/?
LEF
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3.2. Re: YAEPT: Gloucester and Worcester
Posted by: "R A Brown" r...@carolandray.plus.com
Date: Sun Sep 5, 2010 12:10 am ((PDT))
On 05/09/2010 01:39, Peter Collier wrote:
> Ah, transcription. Never my strong point. You could well
> be right - I can't tell for sure if it's /@n/ or /n/. But
> for me at least it's trisyllabic ,
Whoa! There seems to be some confusion here. Lars'
transcription is also trisyllabic, nor was he suggesting /n/
instead of /@n/. Lars was giving /gl{.stn=.bri:/ with three
syllable (the syllable break being shown by the point or
period sign); /n=/ means 'syllabic n', which is common in
English.
> so either
> /gl{s=tn=bri:/
Nah - that's _four_ syllables; /s=/ is 'syllabic s' - not
nearly so common in natlangs as /n=/, but it does occur.
> or /gl{...@n=bri:/.
Which is five syllables! /gl.{s...@.n=.bri:/ !
It's usual on this list to use CXS (Conlang X-Sampa) rather
than X-Sampa (see http://www.theiling.de/ipa/), so /&/ is
preferred to /{/.
Personally, I don't lengthen the final unstressed vowel. I
normally say /"gl&stn=bri/ - tho if speaking slowly in a
formal context, I'd probably say /"gl&st...@ri/
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Constructed Languages
> List [mailto:conl...@listserv.brown.edu] On Behalf Of
> Lars Finsen Sent: 04 September 2010 17:38 To:
> conl...@listserv.brown.edu Subject: Re: YAEPT: Gloucester
> and Worcester
>
> Den 4. sep. 2010 kl. 02.43 skreiv Peter Collier:
>
>> Glastonbury /gl...@nbri:/
>
> Not /gl{stn=bri:/?
>
> LEF
>
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3.3. Re: YAEPT: Gloucester and Worcester
Posted by: "Daniel Prohaska" dan...@ryan-prohaska.com
Date: Sun Sep 5, 2010 6:37 am ((PDT))
For me it's:
Glastonbury /"gl{s.tn=.brI/
Worcester /"wUst@/
Gloucester /"glQst@/
Dan
-----Original Message-----
From: R A Brown
Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2010 9:12 AM
To: conl...@listserv.brown.edu
Subject: Re: YAEPT: Gloucester and Worcester
On 05/09/2010 01:39, Peter Collier wrote:
> Ah, transcription. Never my strong point. You could well
> be right - I can't tell for sure if it's /@n/ or /n/. But
> for me at least it's trisyllabic ,
Whoa! There seems to be some confusion here. Lars' transcription is also
trisyllabic, nor was he suggesting /n/ instead of /@n/. Lars was giving
/gl{.stn=.bri:/ with three syllable (the syllable break being shown by the
point or period sign); /n=/ means 'syllabic n', which is common in English.
> so either
> /gl{s=tn=bri:/
Nah - that's _four_ syllables; /s=/ is 'syllabic s' - not nearly so common in
natlangs as /n=/, but it does occur.
> or /gl{...@n=bri:/.
Which is five syllables! /gl.{s...@.n=.bri:/ !
It's usual on this list to use CXS (Conlang X-Sampa) rather than X-Sampa (see
http://www.theiling.de/ipa/), so /&/ is preferred to /{/.
Personally, I don't lengthen the final unstressed vowel. I normally say
/"gl&stn=bri/ - tho if speaking slowly in a formal context, I'd probably say
/"gl&st...@ri/
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Constructed Languages
> List [mailto:conl...@listserv.brown.edu] On Behalf Of
> Lars Finsen Sent: 04 September 2010 17:38 To:
> conl...@listserv.brown.edu Subject: Re: YAEPT: Gloucester
> and Worcester
>
> Den 4. sep. 2010 kl. 02.43 skreiv Peter Collier:
>
>> Glastonbury /gl...@nbri:/
>
> Not /gl{stn=bri:/?
>
> LEF
>
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4a. Re: OT: Conlang Camping Trip (WAS: making an oral conlang)
Posted by: "Jim Henry" jimhenry1...@gmail.com
Date: Sat Sep 4, 2010 5:57 pm ((PDT))
On Sat, Sep 4, 2010 at 6:54 PM, David Peterson <deda...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sep 4, 2010, at 3◊41 PM, Arthaey Angosii wrote:
>
>> I have to point out that a CONLANG list camping trip would be
>> *awesome*. Anyone else? Lots of great camping to be had on the West
>> Coast... :)
> I would be so totally down for that if it didn't involve the word
> "camping". What about a CONLANG list trip? Say, we all find
> a wealthy donor who sends us on a cruise to Jamaica, or the
> like--full service, meals supplied, functional bathrooms, air
> conditioning, the whole bit. Doesn't that sound nice?
I'd be willing to consider either kind of trip, as long as it's not
primitive camping -- I have medical stuff that requires electricity.
Maybe we could do something like this just before or after an LCC, at
some park or other within a reasonable distance of the LCC conference
site? I don't know for sure about other places, but most Georgia
state parks have a mix of cabins, lodge rooms (similar to motel or
hotel rooms), and camping sites, suitable for a wide range of budgets
and camping vs. staying-in-hotel tastes. If I can ever persuade the
other conlangers in the Atlanta area to help me host an LCC, we could
do a camping trip at a state park shortly before or after (or even
during -- some parks have conference facilities as well as cabins,
camp sites, etc.).
--
Jim Henry
http://www.pobox.com/~jimhenry/
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4b. Re: OT: Conlang Camping Trip (WAS: making an oral conlang)
Posted by: "Lee" waywardwre...@yahoo.com
Date: Sat Sep 4, 2010 9:23 pm ((PDT))
--- On Sat, 9/4/10, David Peterson <deda...@gmail.com> wrote:
From: David Peterson <deda...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: OT: Conlang Camping Trip (WAS: making an oral conlang)
To: conl...@listserv.brown.edu
Date: Saturday, September 4, 2010, 5:54 PM
On Sep 4, 2010, at 3◊41 PM, Arthaey Angosii wrote:
> I have to point out that a CONLANG list camping trip would be
> *awesome*. Anyone else? Lots of great camping to be had on the West
> Coast... :)
I would be so totally down for that if it didn't involve the word
"camping". What about a CONLANG list trip? Say, we all find
a wealthy donor who sends us on a cruise to Jamaica, or the
like--full service, meals supplied, functional bathrooms, air
conditioning, the whole bit. Doesn't that sound nice?
Camping, on the other hand, sounds...dusty.
- - - -
Dusty?! You need to get out more. ;)
Depends where you camp, and what you do while on the trip. Unless it's really
hot and humid, most people don't really notice the heat. It is nice to have a
fan on warm evenings, however.
I'd so go for a camping trip, but recently trading the flexible contractor's
life for something considerably less monetarily fluctuational means vacation
time will be in too short of supply for long-distance travels for a few years.
I'd also love the all-expenses-paid cruise... might even take unpaid time off
for that!
Lee
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4c. Re: OT: Conlang Camping Trip (WAS: making an oral conlang)
Posted by: "Andreas Johansson" andre...@gmail.com
Date: Sun Sep 5, 2010 12:18 am ((PDT))
On Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 12:54 AM, David Peterson <deda...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sep 4, 2010, at 3◊41 PM, Arthaey Angosii wrote:
>
>> I have to point out that a CONLANG list camping trip would be
>> *awesome*. Anyone else? Lots of great camping to be had on the West
>> Coast... :)
>
>
> I would be so totally down for that if it didn't involve the word
> "camping". What about a CONLANG list trip? Say, we all find
> a wealthy donor who sends us on a cruise to Jamaica, or the
> like--full service, meals supplied, functional bathrooms, air
> conditioning, the whole bit. Doesn't that sound nice?
>
> Camping, on the other hand, sounds...dusty.
Clearly you live somewhere where it doesn't rain much.
--
Andreas Johansson
Why can't you be a non-conformist just like everybody else?
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5a. Professional naming
Posted by: "Sai Emrys" s...@saizai.com
Date: Sat Sep 4, 2010 10:06 pm ((PDT))
Sorta like the dark side of micro-conlanging?
http://www.salon.com/media/col/shal/1999/11/30/naming/print.html
I wonder if we could have the LCS do that... but I suspect it's a lot
more about handholding corporate execs than actual linguistic
inventiveness.
- Sai
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5b. Re: Professional naming
Posted by: "Mechthild Czapp" 0zu...@gmx.de
Date: Sun Sep 5, 2010 4:36 am ((PDT))
-------- Original-Nachricht --------
> Datum: Sat, 4 Sep 2010 22:03:12 -0700
> Von: Sai Emrys <s...@saizai.com>
> An: conl...@listserv.brown.edu
> Betreff: Professional naming
> Sorta like the dark side of micro-conlanging?
>
> http://www.salon.com/media/col/shal/1999/11/30/naming/print.html
>
I personally do not think that everything companies do is bad or dark. and such
things, well, do not seem evil to me. The names just makes me squirm. Not only
the -ent names but the other ones as well. I personally would not name anything
like that. But then, seeing that the times I was allowed to give names to
software the results were... interesting*... I might be the wrong person to
judge it. To me it seems corporate names sound very alike. The exceptions were
named quite a while ago. But this pseudo-latin, pseudo-greek,
pseudo-sophistication... I am not sure how it is supposed to coney anything
but: We are a bland company which thinks it is unique but is EXACTLY like its 5
major competitors.
What I considered funny is that people were known for names they invented. This
happened to me as well to the point where even my mother occasionally calls me
Rejis.
> I wonder if we could have the LCS do that... but I suspect it's a lot
> more about handholding corporate execs than actual linguistic
> inventiveness.
>
> - Sai
Very likely, yes.
*Leagion (related to league and legion), Qyzylqum, Namib and Negev where the
last 3 names where part of one project.
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5c. Re: Professional naming
Posted by: "Daniel Nielsen" niel...@uah.edu
Date: Sun Sep 5, 2010 7:17 am ((PDT))
Great article, especially the coda. I could actually see the utility in
changing US Air to US Airways; often for a company so well established, it
is good to maintain some of the old infrastructure as identifiable. I went
to the Univ of Alabama in Huntsville, and the short-form name was changed
from UAH to UAHuntsville - tsunamis ensuing. As a programmer, though, this
seemed like a good name, since I would not name a variable "uah", but would
write "uaHuntsville", indicating it's part of the larger system "ua", and it
helps with recognition. Anyway, thanks for the link.
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6a. Re: Unnamed Language Phonology
Posted by: "Garth Wallace" gwa...@gmail.com
Date: Sat Sep 4, 2010 11:15 pm ((PDT))
On Sat, Sep 4, 2010 at 3:26 PM, Eugene Oh <un.do...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I have a question: not sure what is created with the tie bar and the ᴙ.
> Could that not be interpreted as a sequence of V + C?
The tie bar means it's a simultaneous articulation. It doesn't seem
like that would be analyzed as a sequence instead.
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6b. Re: Unnamed Language Phonology
Posted by: "G. van der Vegt" gijsstri...@gmail.com
Date: Sun Sep 5, 2010 12:16 am ((PDT))
On 5 September 2010 08:14, Garth Wallace <gwa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 4, 2010 at 3:26 PM, Eugene Oh <un.do...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I have a question: not sure what is created with the tie bar and the ᴙ.
>> Could that not be interpreted as a sequence of V + C?
>
> The tie bar means it's a simultaneous articulation. It doesn't seem
> like that would be analyzed as a sequence instead.
>
Yes, this is what the tie bar stands for, thank you,
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6c. Re: Unnamed Language Phonology
Posted by: "Eugene Oh" un.do...@gmail.com
Date: Sun Sep 5, 2010 1:37 am ((PDT))
Interesting. How does that actually sound? I couldn't actually produce a
coarticulation myself. Is there a natlang that has the sound, so that say Wiki
might have a recording, perchance?
Eugene
Sent from my iPhone
On 5 Sep 2010, at 07:57, "G. van der Vegt" <gijsstri...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 5 September 2010 08:14, Garth Wallace <gwa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Sat, Sep 4, 2010 at 3:26 PM, Eugene Oh <un.do...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I have a question: not sure what is created with the tie bar and the ᴙ.
>>> Could that not be interpreted as a sequence of V + C?
>>
>> The tie bar means it's a simultaneous articulation. It doesn't seem
>> like that would be analyzed as a sequence instead.
>>
>
> Yes, this is what the tie bar stands for, thank you,
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7a. Re: Naming systems
Posted by: "Mechthild Czapp" 0zu...@gmx.de
Date: Sun Sep 5, 2010 5:16 am ((PDT))
> An: conl...@listserv.brown.edu
> Betreff: Re: Naming systems
> Hallo!
>
> On Thu, 2 Sep 2010 21:27:50 -0700, Sai Emrys wrote:
>
> > ObCL: How do you handle names in your concultures? Any interesting
> > systems of mono/polynymy, descent, etc?
>
> An Old Albic personal name consists of a given name (a name given to
> the bearer on birth by his/her parents), a chosen name (a name he/she
> chose by himself/herself on his/her 12th birthday) and a patronymic
> (based on his/her father's chosen name, with the ending -ino/ine added).
> House names are also common but not universal. Elves who have left
> their home town/village usually add the ablative of their home town.
> Both the given and chosen names are generally meaningful nouns.
>
> The given name is a rather intimate affair, used mainly within
> the family or among close friends. The belief is widespread that
> someone knowing a person's given name can attain magical power over
> that person, hence disclosing one's given name may be dangerous.
> The given name is usually drawn from a pool of names current in the
> family, or the (given or chosen) name of a well-remembered former
> family member.
>
> The name by which an adult Elf is usually known and addresses is the
> chosen name, which is the public name for all purposes. The chosen
> name is often a childhood nickname, or something to do with the Elf's
> (intended) profession, or something expressing his/her mindset.
> Chosen names can be changed later, though that is not common.
>
Rejistanian names are in general rather similar to western names in so far as
they have a personal name and a family name, but there are some oddities. For
example that there is no general rule which family name a couple will use after
their marriage (it is decided before marriage and related to a number of things
including residence, wealth of the families and whether one of the families
needs a heir to continue existance), in the case of a marriage against the
consent of the parents from both sides, the couple has to assume a new name
(from a list of by now rather generic names like Y, Tari, Kelda, etc...).
The Lajik however have a different system. The names of Lajik consist of a
first name, a syllabic name relating to their parent of the same gender and a
syllabic name relating to their parent of the opposite gender, eg: Viskore
Il-Ne (Viskore is his first name, Il refers to his father Kailis Il-Ne (before
marriage: Kailis Il-Kva), Ne refers to his mother Shialasnu Ne-Il, who was
Shialasnu Ne-Ltaj before marriage). You already see how names are constructed
in case of marriage. Some names are very odd because the last name of a
foreigner was mangled to fit this scheme, ie Telai Sa-Y (Y does not natively
occur in Lajik) or Ixadil Kiharil-Sju.
--
Sanja'xen mi'lanja'kynha ,mi'la'ohix'ta jilih, nka.
My life would be easy if it was not so hard!
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