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Topics in this digest:
1a. Re: Theoretical language
From: Andreas Johansson
2a. Re: OT: Conlang Camping Trip (WAS: making an oral conlang)
From: Christophe Grandsire-Koevoets
3a. Re: Need help with phonetics/phonology at CALS
From: John Vertical
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1a. Re: Theoretical language
Posted by: "Andreas Johansson" andre...@gmail.com
Date: Mon Sep 6, 2010 4:57 am ((PDT))
On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 1:31 PM, Roman Rausch <ara...@mail.ru> wrote:
>>E.G.
>>/kitapu/ = book
>>/gidabu/ = books
>>/xiTafu/ = book's
>>/GiDavu/ = books'
>>or something along those lines.
>
> I had the same idea for a conlang - mutation through the whole word, similar
> to the way vowel affection influences all the vowels, but I have never
> elaborated it.
>
> A related idea would be to have some kind of sonant harmony, where palatal
> /j/, /L/, /J/ do not mix with /w/, /L\/, /m/. So one would have /kjetJe/,
> but /kwatma/ (which could then also influence the stops) or something like
> that.
>
ISTR reading that some dialects of Aramaic have "emphatic harmony"
where each word has all or none of its consonants emphatic.
--
Andreas Johansson
Why can't you be a non-conformist just like everybody else?
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2a. Re: OT: Conlang Camping Trip (WAS: making an oral conlang)
Posted by: "Christophe Grandsire-Koevoets" tsela...@gmail.com
Date: Mon Sep 6, 2010 6:15 am ((PDT))
On 5 September 2010 00:54, David Peterson <deda...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sep 4, 2010, at 3◊41 PM, Arthaey Angosii wrote:
>
> > I have to point out that a CONLANG list camping trip would be
> > *awesome*. Anyone else? Lots of great camping to be had on the West
> > Coast... :)
>
>
> I would be so totally down for that if it didn't involve the word
> "camping".
Hear hear! I've camped only a few times in my life, and promised myself:
never again. I can live on the rough if necessary, but why should I ever
*choose* to live on the rough? For *fun*? Clearly, if you think so, then you
have a completely different idea of what fun is. Making myself homeless on
purpose is not quite my idea of fun.
> What about a CONLANG list trip? Say, we all find
> a wealthy donor who sends us on a cruise to Jamaica, or the
> like--full service, meals supplied, functional bathrooms, air
> conditioning, the whole bit. Doesn't that sound nice?
>
>
I don't need the full service, but nice rooms and clean bathrooms are a
must. A cruise could be fun. What about the Nile? Plenty of things to see,
lots of linguistically interesting places :P .
> Camping, on the other hand, sounds...dusty.
>
>
Well, eh... no. Dust is a human invention, that only appears in full-roofed
houses. You won't find dust in nature. Sand, earth, filth maybe, but no
dust.
That said, sand and earth aren't much fun either when they get into your
sleeping bag :( .
--
Christophe Grandsire-Koevoets.
http://christophoronomicon.blogspot.com/
http://www.christophoronomicon.nl/
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3a. Re: Need help with phonetics/phonology at CALS
Posted by: "John Vertical" johnverti...@hotmail.com
Date: Mon Sep 6, 2010 7:10 am ((PDT))
On Sun, 5 Sep 2010 18:35:02 +0200, taliesin the storyteller
wrote:
>Support for describing exactly which sounds a (spoken) language has is
>being added to CALS. The phoneme-data is from UPSID at
>
> http://web.phonetik.uni-frankfurt.de/upsid.html
>
>but UPSID was before unicode and used ASCII symbols and not very ipa-ish
>descriptions of the sounds. Thus, it has been necessary to figure out
>which UPSID ASCII symbol goes with which IPA symbol.
>
>This is where help is needed! Stop by the sound-lab at
>
> http://cals.conlang.org/sound/
>
>and comment (you'll need to log in) on those sounds whose IPA symbols or
>descriptions are off, or missing.
Is it OK if I comment here? I only have one quick note: UPSID contains
several "mid vowel" and "dental/alveolar" entries. These should generally
not be understood as entities distinct from mid-close & mid-open, and dental
& alveolar sounds, but cover symbols that can be either (and can be used
when the exact phonetics are not known).
John Vertical
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