There are 9 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1a. Re: I Ching + finnegans wake + McLuhan
From: Jörg Rhiemeier
1b. Re: I Ching + finnegans wake + McLuhan
From: Samuel Stutter
1c. Re: I Ching + finnegans wake + McLuhan
From: Garth Wallace
1d. Re: I Ching + finnegans wake + McLuhan
From: Douglas Koller
1e. Re: I Ching + finnegans wake + McLuhan
From: Carsten Becker
1f. Re: I Ching + finnegans wake + McLuhan
From: the ursprachist ursprach
1g. Re: I Ching + finnegans wake + McLuhan
From: David Peterson
2a. Re: What kind of minimal pairs are most problematic?
From: Jim Henry
3. 30-Day Conlang : day three
From: Gary Shannon
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1a. Re: I Ching + finnegans wake + McLuhan
Posted by: "Jörg Rhiemeier" joerg_rhieme...@web.de
Date: Wed Nov 3, 2010 8:18 am ((PDT))
Hallo!
On Tue, 2 Nov 2010 22:14:51 -0200, the ursprachist ursprach wrote:
> " 六位時成，時乘六龍以御天 " : ऋतुसंहार; ऋतु + 爻辭 ? ऋतुः ( 爻一 वसन्तः [image: Aries.svg]
> [...]
WHAT?
--
... brought to you by the Weeping Elf
http://www.joerg-rhiemeier.de/Conlang/index.html
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1b. Re: I Ching + finnegans wake + McLuhan
Posted by: "Samuel Stutter" sam.stut...@student.manchester.ac.uk
Date: Wed Nov 3, 2010 8:31 am ((PDT))
Maybe it's some kind of leet comedy which requires comprehension of
Mandarin, (what I'm guessing is) Hindi, Media Theory and Irish
ballads...
Hey! I get it! It's hilarious everyone
On 3 Nov 2010, at 15:16, Jörg Rhiemeier wrote:
> Hallo!
>
> On Tue, 2 Nov 2010 22:14:51 -0200, the ursprachist ursprach wrote:
>
>> " 六位時成，時乘六龍以御天 " : ऋतुसंहार;
>> ऋतु + 爻辭 ? ऋतुः ( 爻一 वसन्तः
>> [image: Aries.svg]
>> [...]
>
> WHAT?
>
> --
> ... brought to you by the Weeping Elf
> http://www.joerg-rhiemeier.de/Conlang/index.html
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1c. Re: I Ching + finnegans wake + McLuhan
Posted by: "Garth Wallace" gwa...@gmail.com
Date: Wed Nov 3, 2010 10:11 am ((PDT))
On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 8:16 AM, Jörg Rhiemeier <joerg_rhieme...@web.de> wrote:
> Hallo!
>
> On Tue, 2 Nov 2010 22:14:51 -0200, the ursprachist ursprach wrote:
>
>> " 六位時成，時乘六龍以御天 " : ऋतुसंहार; ऋतु + 爻辭 ? ऋतुः ( 爻一 वसन्तः [image: Aries.svg]
>> [...]
>
> WHAT?
TIMECUBE IS ABOVEGOD
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1d. Re: I Ching + finnegans wake + McLuhan
Posted by: "Douglas Koller" lao...@comcast.net
Date: Wed Nov 3, 2010 10:14 am ((PDT))
> On Tue, 2 Nov 2010 22:14:51 -0200, the ursprachist ursprach wrote:
>
>> " 六位時成，時乘六龍以御天 " : ऋतुसंहार; ऋतु + 爻辭 ? ऋतुः ( 爻一 वसन्तः [image: Aries.svg]
>> [...]
> WHAT?
Dewds, if you read this in the original Klingon, you will slap your knees
purple. It *killed* on Znarfdan.
Kou
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1e. Re: I Ching + finnegans wake + McLuhan
Posted by: "Carsten Becker" carb...@googlemail.com
Date: Wed Nov 3, 2010 11:37 am ((PDT))
Ezra Pound schrieb:
> I cannot make it cohere.
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Ayeri Grammar (under construction): http://bit.ly/9dSyTI (PDF)
Der Sprachbaukasten: http://sanstitre.nfshost.com/sbk
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1f. Re: I Ching + finnegans wake + McLuhan
Posted by: "the ursprachist ursprach" theursprach...@gmail.com
Date: Wed Nov 3, 2010 6:44 pm ((PDT))
Dear Ezra,
I understand your concerns for my mental health, as we're all so yung and
easily freudened ; but if you pardon me, you and stan can suck a money's
scalp. Norah's sayin' talk straight turkey and start putting some stuff on
youtube but I don't want to be the next justin bieber, not yet: that'd be
quite, you know, CONTRA NATURAM.
And by the way,
" Sin' on päivä paistamatta, kuu ( 陰 ) kulta kumottamatta noilla Väinölän
tuvilla, Kalevalan kankahilla ( 艮 ) ( हेमन्त , धनुष , [image:
Sagittarius.svg] ) . " : Kalevala = Sāman ( Lāṭyāyanaśrautasūtram , Ὀδυσσεύς
: ἀστειολογία , νουβυστικός , μηχανικός , γνωμοτυπικός , ... , Mercurius ,
Amanita muscaria & Psilocybe sp. : Ба́ба-Яга́ , Ива́н Я́ковлевич. Tunguska
event : McKenna 1
<http://www.matrixmasters.net/salon/?p=327>|2<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLFSz5zCs5o>
) describes 時. "*Time* and the river and the *mountain* are the real heroes
of my book"
[ref]<http://books.google.com.br/books?id=04U4YwgxB8EC&pg=PA8&lpg=PA8&dq=finnish+words+in+finnegans+wake&source=bl&ots=HBbodTVXqF&sig=6bvS6HD1hktdO1To0_suEWG-xuw&hl=pt-BR&ei=tgnSTJCxDcT68Aa1k6jzDA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=2&ved=0CBkQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=time%20and%20the%20river&f=false>:
Setälä agrees. Aurora consurgens
[1]<http://theursprachist.blogspot.com/2010/10/occultcorpus-discussion-aurora.html>
[2]<http://theursprachist.blogspot.com/2010/10/aurora-consurgens-medieval-alchemical.html>:
"two decapitated heads" : blue snake figure holding an axe is
Mercurius ( Sāman
: Dormiens Vigila, "While sleeping, watch!" ? ). كتاب ألف ليلة وليلة and 時 ?
Bard of Avon => Gutenberg Galaxy => I Ching, Hamlet in 爻s ?
reposted from
http://theursprachist.blogspot.com/2010/11/ur-ching-3-11-10.html
On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 4:35 PM, Carsten Becker <carb...@googlemail.com>wrote:
> Ezra Pound schrieb:
> > I cannot make it cohere.
>
> --
> Ayeri Grammar (under construction): http://bit.ly/9dSyTI (PDF)
> Der Sprachbaukasten: http://sanstitre.nfshost.com/sbk
>
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1g. Re: I Ching + finnegans wake + McLuhan
Posted by: "David Peterson" deda...@gmail.com
Date: Wed Nov 3, 2010 8:23 pm ((PDT))
On Nov 3, 2010, at 6◊41 PM, the ursprachist ursprach wrote:
>
> " Sin' on päivä paistamatta, kuu ( 陰 ) kulta kumottamatta noilla Väinölän
> tuvilla, Kalevalan kankahilla ( 艮 ) ( हेमन्त , धनु...
Where's Hanuman Zhang when you need him?
-David
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2a. Re: What kind of minimal pairs are most problematic?
Posted by: "Jim Henry" jimhenry1...@gmail.com
Date: Wed Nov 3, 2010 8:20 am ((PDT))
On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 10:29 AM, Matthew Martin
<matthewdeanmar...@gmail.com> wrote:
> What sorts of minimal pairs cause the most trouble?
I would suggest paying more attention to whether your minimal pairs
are in the same distributional category, i.e., likely to occur in the
same context. If not, you're probably fine.
On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 3:13 PM, Matthew Martin
<matthewdeanmar...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Can anyone suggest what sort of pattern would generate relatively few minimal
> pairs for consonant and vowel pattern sensitivity? I'm guessing it
See here:
http://www.pobox.com/~jimhenry/conlang/redundancy.htm
*Any* possible phonology you devise will have a lot of minimal pairs
if you coin every word that the phonology allows, and any phonology
will allow you to avoid minimal pairs if you're willing to get by with
fewer short words than you could have if you agressively used all the
possible combinations.
--
Jim Henry
http://www.pobox.com/~jimhenry/
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3. 30-Day Conlang : day three
Posted by: "Gary Shannon" fizi...@gmail.com
Date: Wed Nov 3, 2010 9:58 am ((PDT))
Translation so far:
Miro kinta ka'anui susa ne ban khanu, kho byano matawika luyatu ne
ka'anui opa hali. Dota
edo mapona sofalia yamu a majamosa lela mapona amalu ia raharu ne
hali. Vago rabasui muza
ka'anui dona hali, kho edo jamosa xumbia hake dona maya. Bosio kiza
futanui dona hali a
bosio hayatui opa dozan pelu, luken pelu, a uradu ai sopekui dona
maya. Edo tepira dekaru
dona piata wakiri a xunga dumuru ai piata kuzia sumpi. Namino dona
tatu axa ka'anu a nasopo
dona waka oda mayu ne zoku uzen piata nasa ai tokona. Edo midi dona
tokona dan oxamaga
bindui, fantui, pekina pelui a sobina vudai. Khua edo midi, ampa pola
raharu, dona genda a
venua yamui. Bosio tose jampa, ya tose mankui ai jampa, ne yamui opa
ban raharu. Bosio tose
mankui ai voti ne hakharu opa hali kho numpa raharu Tsa a bosio ane
manku ne unze voti opa
hali, navago "Atis", "Galus", a jembo, olanis ne. Bosio jampu To-Jo
dona jabaru, a bosio
khene nabui jembo halu ne lindu opa halu. Edo mayelan, ya xutogas
nabui opa Tsa khanu dona
ban nabui. Edo wege yelan dona ane opa hali, a bosio xuma folia a wege
amele hayatu a luken
golam dona halu.
Bosio ola mamaru dona hali dan tatu a igoro jetelui a khotama opa tatu
dona hali. Fialo kua
pakor a papolo a yhazo unze khotamu dona hali. Byano ura tatu anemanu
dona hali; bosio jampu
Bandlu, ya alatu khanu dona ban khanu. Bosio jampa Sto-Lu ya yhaku
khanu dona khanu opa Tsa.
Edo xu'apente yhaku khanu dona Bo-Lu, ya bajamu khanu. Lela bosio ixi
saboli a ixi hakharu
dona A-Lu.
I've noticed that "kh" and "yh" are both fricatives, but they are very
different from each other. I know how to make the sounds, but I don't
know how to describe them yet. I'm (reluctantly) learning some
phonology so when the times comes to document the phonology of
conlang-X I will have the necessary terms to describe the various
sounds.
I'm beginning to develop a "feel" for the way words are put together
in conlang-X. It's odd, because the sentence structure is nothing like
any language I've learned before, yet it's beginning to feel natural.
http://fiziwig.com/conlang/thirty_day.html
--gary
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