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1a. Re: Ejective distributions From: Matthew Boutilier 2. 30-Day Conlang: Day Eight From: Gary Shannon 3a. The Fantastical Devices of Pete the Mad Scientist From: Peter Bleackley 3b. Re: The Fantastical Devices of Pete the Mad Scientist From: Jim Henry Messages ________________________________________________________________________ 1a. Re: Ejective distributions Posted by: "Matthew Boutilier" mbout...@nd.edu Date: Mon Nov 8, 2010 11:36 am ((PST)) whoa!! this is fantastically interesting. thank you both for the disillusionment. matt On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 7:29 AM, David McCann <da...@polymathy.plus.com>wrote: > On Sun, 2010-11-07 at 21:20 -0500, Matthew Boutilier wrote: > > > really? hmm, interesting, i hadn't heard about that. as far as i know, > > neither /ts/ nor /dz/ is reconstructed in proto-semitic. out of > curiosity, > > do you have a source for this that i can check out? > > The reconstruction of ProtoSemitic was done in the 19th century on the > basis of Hebrew, Aramaic, and Arabic. Study of the South Semitic > languages, and of the AfroAsiatic languages, shows that the original > reconstruction had the right number of phonemes but the wrong values: > e.g. /š s ś/ for /s c ɬ/. A good source is the Cambridge Encyclopedia of > the World's Ancient Languages. Most Semiticists keep the old > transcription, on the grounds that otherwise when someone wrote "s" > they'd be wondering if they were a modernist and meant the old "š" or a > traditionalist and meant the new "c"! AfroAsiatic studies seems to use > the new version, just to make life more interesting. > Messages in this topic (8) ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ 2. 30-Day Conlang: Day Eight Posted by: "Gary Shannon" fizi...@gmail.com Date: Mon Nov 8, 2010 12:42 pm ((PST)) On day eight I have 895 words out of 2198, or 41% of the original text translated. The dictionary now contains 251 conlang words and 548 English words. http://fiziwig.com/conlang/thirty_day.html I've streamlined the process of creating new words. I am taking some inspiration from a Pali dictionary to give me a starting point, then toss out the vowels and I fool around with the consonants until I get something that fits my morphology. For example, "hand" is Pali: (m) hattha; bhuja; kara; sahayakammakara (f) disa So I picked "kara" from that list and fiddled with it a bit until it became "akalu", which is different enough from the Pali to be original, yet still somewhat inspired by the Pali, so that I don't have to stare at a blank wall each time I need a new word. I guess this method might tend to give my lexicon a slightly Indo-European flavor. --gary Messages in this topic (1) ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ 3a. The Fantastical Devices of Pete the Mad Scientist Posted by: "Peter Bleackley" peter.bleack...@rd.bbc.co.uk Date: Tue Nov 9, 2010 5:39 am ((PST)) I've just started a blog with the above title at http://fantasticaldevices/wordpress.com It's not all about conlanging, but any posts about conlangs will be tagged as such. I've just put up a post about Latin By The Road Less Travelled. Pete Messages in this topic (2) ________________________________________________________________________ 3b. Re: The Fantastical Devices of Pete the Mad Scientist Posted by: "Jim Henry" jimhenry1...@gmail.com Date: Tue Nov 9, 2010 6:41 am ((PST)) On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 9:36 AM, Peter Bleackley <peter.bleack...@rd.bbc.co.uk> wrote: > I've just started a blog with the above title at > http://fantasticaldevices/wordpress.com Should be: http://fantasticaldevices.wordpress.com/ -- Jim Henry http://www.pobox.com/~jimhenry/ Messages in this topic (2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/conlang/ <*> Your email settings: Digest Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/conlang/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: conlang-nor...@yahoogroups.com conlang-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: conlang-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------