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1a. Re: Conlang punctuation. From: Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews 1b. Re: Conlang punctuation. From: R A Brown 1c. Re: Conlang punctuation. From: Ph. D. 1d. Re: Conlang punctuation. From: Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews Messages ________________________________________________________________________ 1a. Re: Conlang punctuation. Posted by: "Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews" goldyemo...@gmail.com Date: Mon Jul 1, 2013 9:06 am ((PDT)) Are there rules governing conlang punctuation? I meant to ask awhile back about this, but kept forgetting. I think mine uses a period as a coma. Can I invent my own punctuation? I wanted to use the thorn letter, but can't copy it, even though Jaws reads it right. I can't even re-create it, any suggestions? Mellissa Green @GreenNovelist -----Original Message----- From: Constructed Languages List [mailto:conl...@listserv.brown.edu] On Behalf Of Christophe Grandsire-Koevoets Sent: Monday, July 1, 2013 11:34 AM To: conl...@listserv.brown.edu Subject: Re: Conlang punctuation. On 8 June 2013 16:23, Leonardo Castro <leolucas1...@gmail.com> wrote: > Do your conlangs have any punctuation peculiarities? > > For contextualization: > www.quicksilvertranslate.com/570/some-punctuation-peculiarities > > Nice that it mentioned non-breaking spaces *before* two-part punctuation in French :) . I've always felt the absence of space in English made signs like ! and ? too close to the preceding word for comfort. Note however that in good French typography the size of the space *before* the punctuation is not the same as the size of the space *after* it. The space after punctuation is a normal space (similar to the one between words), while the space before punctuation should be a thin space, about a fifth to a sixth of an em-width. Unfortunately, web typography usually doesn't allow an easy way to type in non-breaking thin spaces... Another peculiar punctuation is that of Modern Greek, which uses the semi-colon as a question mark, while the role of the semi-colon is taken over by the raised dot. In principle, the role of the colon should also be taken by the raised dot, but in practice most Greek speakers now simply use the colon. My own Moten doesn't really have an orthography, just a romanisation, so I just use the punctuation standard of the language I'm writing in, usually English. On the other hand I have a language for which I created a peculiar punctuation on purpose: my Chasmäöcho is written using Latin letters and existing punctuation, but it uses it all differently, just for the sake of being different (I was in a bit of a contrary mood at that time :P). The Listserv archives have quite a lot of material on Chasmäöcho (not all easy to find), but the relevant post can be found here: http://listserv.brown.edu/archives/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0006A&L=CONLANG&P=R6166&I=-3&d=No+Match%3BMatch%3BMatches -- Christophe Grandsire-Koevoets. http://christophoronomicon.blogspot.com/ http://www.christophoronomicon.nl/ Messages in this topic (19) ________________________________________________________________________ 1b. Re: Conlang punctuation. Posted by: "R A Brown" r...@carolandray.plus.com Date: Mon Jul 1, 2013 9:13 am ((PDT)) On 01/07/2013 17:06, Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews wrote: > Are there rules governing conlang punctuation? No. > Can I invent my own punctuation? Certainly - many conlangers do :) -- Ray ================================== http://www.carolandray.plus.com ================================== "language … began with half-musical unanalysed expressions for individual beings and events." [Otto Jespersen, Progress in Language, 1895] Messages in this topic (19) ________________________________________________________________________ 1c. Re: Conlang punctuation. Posted by: "Ph. D." p...@phillipdriscoll.com Date: Mon Jul 1, 2013 9:17 am ((PDT)) On 7/1/2013 11:33 AM, Christophe Grandsire-Koevoets wrote: > Nice that it mentioned non-breaking spaces *before* two-part punctuation in > French :) . I've always felt the absence of space in English made signs > like ! and ? too close to the preceding word for comfort. Note however that > in good French typography the size of the space *before* the punctuation is > not the same as the size of the space *after* it. The space after > punctuation is a normal space (similar to the one between words), while the > space before punctuation should be a thin space, about a fifth to a sixth > of an em-width. Unfortunately, web typography usually doesn't allow an easy > way to type in non-breaking thin spaces... When I'm doing metal typesetting, I usually put a 1 or 1.5 point space before ? and ! --Ph. D. Messages in this topic (19) ________________________________________________________________________ 1d. Re: Conlang punctuation. Posted by: "Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews" goldyemo...@gmail.com Date: Mon Jul 1, 2013 9:35 am ((PDT)) Good. Thanks. It sounds like I'll be gathering material on punctuation marks. Mellissa Green @GreenNovelist -----Original Message----- From: Constructed Languages List [mailto:conl...@listserv.brown.edu] On Behalf Of R A Brown Sent: Monday, July 1, 2013 12:14 PM To: conl...@listserv.brown.edu Subject: Re: Conlang punctuation. On 01/07/2013 17:06, Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews wrote: > Are there rules governing conlang punctuation? No. > Can I invent my own punctuation? Certainly - many conlangers do :) -- Ray ================================== http://www.carolandray.plus.com ================================== "language … began with half-musical unanalysed expressions for individual beings and events." [Otto Jespersen, Progress in Language, 1895] Messages in this topic (19) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/conlang/ <*> Your email settings: Digest Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/conlang/join (Yahoo! 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