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 1. RE: Yellow-Green Staining on Polyethylene Bags

 2. RE: Gilder's bole

 3. RE: Yellow-Green Staining on Polyethylene Bags

 4. RE: Gilder's bole

 5. RE: Yellow-Green Staining on Polyethylene Bags

 6. RE: Yellow-Green Staining on Polyethylene Bags

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1.From: Yvonne Shashoua
 Posted: Friday July 17, 2026  7:34 AM
 Subject: RE: Yellow-Green Staining on Polyethylene Bags
 Message:  
Yellowing of polyethylene bags, such as Ziplock or freezer bags is most 
frequently due to degradation by oxidation. The reaction between oxygen in air 
and polyethylene results in the formation of carbonyl chemical groups  that 
result in darkening and yellowing. New polyethylene bags contain UV absorbers, 
like sun cream, and antioxidants that protect the plastic from light and air. 
When these are exhausted, yellowing and weakening are the result. No plastic 
lasts forever and,  in my experience, yellowing is common in polyethylene bags 
after 10 years. Because oxidation cannot be reversed, replacing these bags is 
the solution. 
 
 
 
You mention plasticizer as a possible cause of yellowing. Polyethylene does not 
require plasticizer to be flexible, it is an inbuilt property, whereas PVC does 
and it too yellows with time. 
 
 
  

 Yvonne Shashoua
 
Research Professor, National Museum of Denmark
 
 
  

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Original Message:
Sent: 7/16/2026 12:30:00 PM
From: Marybeth Tomka
Subject: Yellow-Green Staining on Polyethylene Bags

I am inquiring if anyone has had the experience of finding staining or 
discoloration of polyethylene bags containing archaeological materials that 
can't seem to be explained by mold or other natural causes.  I have found it in 
several collections at two repositories in Texas and it has recently been 
reported to me at one in North Dakota by a former student.  However, this case 
is more rampant and more extensive.  In my previous work we had linked it to 
the plasticizers reacting to UV light, possible vehicle exhaust fumes in 
warehouses, and oxygen.  One article we read linked it to the breakdown of 
phenolic antioxidants to quinone which appears yellow green.  I am an 
archaeologist with training in collections management, so chemistry is not a 
strength, but I had a volunteer with a biochemistry background that helped with 
the research.  We are really looking for some answers to find out if we have a 
chemical reaction that is innocuous and unsightly or something of danger to the
 objects.  The first time I saw the reactions it was with organic materials and 
ferrous metals; the second time the discoloration was appearing where the bags 
were stressed from the objects being too large for bag size.  Unfortunately 
even if I could share pictures, the images do not illustrate the likeness of 
the discoloration.  
I would appreciate a conservator's opinion on the chemistry of what might be 
happening and any anecdotal comments on having seen this strange occurrence. We 
want to share the results so that people are forewarned.  It seems objects may 
have been discarded because they were thought to be contaminated -- in my 
experience there was no smell and recent testing in ND did not indicate mold or 
spores of any kind.
Ideas?
Thank you.
 Marybeth Tomka MA RPA Prof Spec CMArgyle Archaeological Services   


2.From: Robin Hodgson
 Posted: Friday July 17, 2026  7:34 AM
 Subject: RE: Gilder's bole
 Message: 
Hi Caroline,


What colours are you looking for? I have a few I very much doubt I'll ever get 
to use again I'll check in the morning what I actually have  





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Robin Hodgson
Owner
RH Conservation Engineering
Flinders
[email protected]
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Original Message:
Sent: 07-16-2026 07:07
From: Caroline Oliver
Subject: Gilder's bole

Hi everyone,
My jars are getting empty and I've just been searching the usual suppliers to 
buy some bole clay for gilding. It's getting harder to find stock available, 
especially since Selhamin has been discontinued, and the colour range is ever 
shrinking. I'm sure there are studios around the country (I'm UK based) that 
have bole they no longer use. How do people feel about re-homing/selling unused 
supplies?
Just a thought - it doesn't go off and there are gilders who would make good 
use of it.
Caroline 
 Caroline Oliver [email protected] 
<[email protected]>07739 069165
www.coconservation.co.uk <http://www.coconservation.co.uk> 
  


3.From: Dermot Cox-Kearns
 Posted: Friday July 17, 2026  7:38 AM
 Subject: RE: Yellow-Green Staining on Polyethylene Bags
 Message: 
When they are making the bags, some of the producers use something to prevent 
static and sticking of the plastic material as it comes off the roll into the 
bag forming machine, when the material is going through the machine that 
formats the bags,  static and sticking can slow down the speed the machine can 
work at ... unfortunately I have no real idea what the materials are that they 
use to prevent static and sticking on the machines, possible it is similar to 
the coconut power that is used when they make disposal powder latex gloves, or 
some other similar material, similar materials are also used in the Litho 
printing industries.


A possible solution to eliminate the staining is to use food or pharmaceutical 
grade plastic bags, which would have a much cleaner production than standard 
plastic bags.




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Dermot Cox-Kearns
Owner
On The Edge
Ashford - Wicklow
Ireland
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Original Message:
Sent: 07-16-2026 12:30
From: Marybeth Tomka
Subject: Yellow-Green Staining on Polyethylene Bags





I am inquiring if anyone has had the experience of finding staining or 
discoloration of polyethylene bags containing archaeological materials that 
can't seem to be explained by mold or other natural causes.  I have found it in 
several collections at two repositories in Texas and it has recently been 
reported to me at one in North Dakota by a former student.  However, this case 
is more rampant and more extensive.  In my previous work we had linked it to 
the plasticizers reacting to UV light, possible vehicle exhaust fumes in 
warehouses, and oxygen.  One article we read linked it to the breakdown of 
phenolic antioxidants to quinone which appears yellow green.  I am an 
archaeologist with training in collections management, so chemistry is not a 
strength, but I had a volunteer with a biochemistry background that helped with 
the research.  We are really looking for some answers to find out if we have a 
chemical reaction that is innocuous and unsightly or something of danger to the
 objects.  The first time I saw the reactions it was with organic materials and 
ferrous metals; the second time the discoloration was appearing where the bags 
were stressed from the objects being too large for bag size.  Unfortunately 
even if I could share pictures, the images do not illustrate the likeness of 
the discoloration.  
 
I would appreciate a conservator's opinion on the chemistry of what might be 
happening and any anecdotal comments on having seen this strange occurrence. We 
want to share the results so that people are forewarned.  It seems objects may 
have been discarded because they were thought to be contaminated -- in my 
experience there was no smell and recent testing in ND did not indicate mold or 
spores of any kind.
 
Ideas?
 
Thank you.
 
Marybeth Tomka MA RPA Prof Spec CM
Argyle Archaeological Services 




4.From: Ana Flynn-Young
 Posted: Friday July 17, 2026  1:07 PM
 Subject: RE: Gilder's bole
 Message:  
They still seem to have it in stock at Jaksons
 
Bole, Grounds & Lacquer for Gilding | Jackson's Art 
<https://www.jacksonsart.com/techniques/gilding/bole-grounds-lacquer>
 
Good luck
 
 
  
Ana Flynn-Young  
 
Head of Painting Conservation.  
 
North East Museums (formerly Tyne and Wear Archives and Museums) 
 
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Original Message:
Sent: 7/16/2026 7:08:00 AM
From: Caroline Oliver
Subject: Gilder's bole

Hi everyone,
My jars are getting empty and I've just been searching the usual suppliers to 
buy some bole clay for gilding. It's getting harder to find stock available, 
especially since Selhamin has been discontinued, and the colour range is ever 
shrinking. I'm sure there are studios around the country (I'm UK based) that 
have bole they no longer use. How do people feel about re-homing/selling unused 
supplies?
Just a thought - it doesn't go off and there are gilders who would make good 
use of it.
Caroline 
 Caroline Oliver [email protected] 069165
www.coconservation.co.uk <http://www.coconservation.co.uk> 
  


5.From: Marybeth Tomka
 Posted: Friday July 17, 2026  1:07 PM
 Subject: RE: Yellow-Green Staining on Polyethylene Bags
 Message: 
Yvonne Shashoua


Thank you so much for your reply.  I did a double take when I saw your email.  
I have had your book on my shelf for over 10 years since  I started seeing this 
plastic issue.  I had also reached out to the Canadian Conservation Institute 
and Dr. Mark Kearney replied with the same advice and explanation as you did.  
He also provided these links to a few studies that are great illustrates of the 
experiments I wanted to do: (A preliminary investigation into the influence of 
archaeological material on the yellowing of polyethylene storage bags: AICCM 
Bulletin: Vol 42 , No 2 - Get Access 
<https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/10344233.2022.2058245>;  Safe 
Storage? An Assessment of Polyethylene for the Storage of Heritage Objects: 
Studies in Conservation: Vol 68 , No 6 - Get Access 
<https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/00393630.2022.2092702?src=recsys>;
  Antioxidant-induced yellowing of textiles - ScienceDirect  
 <https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/0141391095001565>


I hope the readers of this list have the resources to access the presses 
because the PDFS are pricing if you do not.  I do have one question about the 2 
Australian studies if you are aware of them or read them.  They both mention PE 
but do not specify if it is of high density polyethylene (HDPE; Number 2) or 
low density polyethylene (LDPE Number 4). I don't think it would make much of a 
difference except that the low density should degrade faster, correct?


In a nutshell, what this means for collections managers, is that we must take 
the assessment of our collections much more seriously in archaeology and 
dedicate more funds toward the repackaging of our collections on ten-year 
cycles.  Everything that the managers of archaeological budgets do not want or 
can do.


Again, thank you for answering my question, your wonderful resource book, and 
any additional thoughts you may share.  





Marybeth


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Marybeth Tomka
Owner-Operator
Converse, Texas
United States
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Original Message:
Sent: 07-17-2026 05:25
From: Yvonne Shashoua
Subject:  Yellow-Green Staining on Polyethylene Bags

 
Yellowing of polyethylene bags, such as Ziplock or freezer bags is most 
frequently due to degradation by oxidation. The reaction between oxygen in air 
and polyethylene results in the formation of carbonyl chemical groups  that 
result in darkening and yellowing. New polyethylene bags contain UV absorbers, 
like sun cream, and antioxidants that protect the plastic from light and air. 
When these are exhausted, yellowing and weakening are the result. No plastic 
lasts forever and,  in my experience, yellowing is common in polyethylene bags 
after 10 years. Because oxidation cannot be reversed, replacing these bags is 
the solution. 
 
 
 
You mention plasticizer as a possible cause of yellowing. Polyethylene does not 
require plasticizer to be flexible, it is an inbuilt property, whereas PVC does 
and it too yellows with time. 
 
 
  

 Yvonne Shashoua
 
Research Professor, National Museum of Denmark

 
  




6.From: Marybeth Tomka
 Posted: Friday July 17, 2026  1:07 PM
 Subject: RE: Yellow-Green Staining on Polyethylene Bags
 Message: 
Dermot,


Do you know what grade of plastic that would be or the relative cost?


Thanks,


Marybeth


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Marybeth Tomka
Argyle Archaeological Services
Converse Texas
USA
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Original Message:
Sent: 07-17-2026 05:27
From: Dermot Cox-Kearns
Subject:  Yellow-Green Staining on Polyethylene Bags


When they are making the bags, some of the producers use something to prevent 
static and sticking of the plastic material as it comes off the roll into the 
bag forming machine, when the material is going through the machine that 
formats the bags,  static and sticking can slow down the speed the machine can 
work at ... unfortunately I have no real idea what the materials are that they 
use to prevent static and sticking on the machines, possible it is similar to 
the coconut power that is used when they make disposal powder latex gloves, or 
some other similar material, similar materials are also used in the Litho 
printing industries.

A possible solution to eliminate the staining is to use food or pharmaceutical 
grade plastic bags, which would have a much cleaner production than standard 
plastic bags.



------------------------------
Dermot Cox-Kearns
Owner
On The Edge
Ashford - Wicklow
Ireland
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