Wow... thanks so so very much on all the awesome insight about my ctr of the set swing question + additional thoughts on related dances. Alan - your insight into both of the dances I posted + Bob D's alternative is so great. :) Seth T ... I will definitely give your dance a try! John - Alan's follow up to your point relates to some of my thinking. Although I'm not super experienced, I do find that contras tend to be tighter so that the ongoing connection between dancers can happen whereas I find say longways barn dances tend to spread out a lot more. Allison - love the thoughts on the spacing of 2H turns. :)
Thanks all! :) Emily <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail> Virus-free.www.avg.com <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail> <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> On Fri, Apr 14, 2023 at 10:10 PM Jacob or Nancy Bloom via Contra Callers < contracallers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote: > One of my go-to dances for beginning contra dancers has everyone swinging > their partner in the center of the set at the same time. It works fine. > Before I start teaching the dance, I make sure that the dancers spread out > up and down the set so that they have enough room. (If the hall were too > crowded for them to spread out that much, then of course I wouldn't do that > dance.) > > Jacob > > On Fri, Apr 14, 2023, 9:31 PM Allison Jonjak via Contra Callers < > contracallers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote: > >> In my experience, two hand turns can (by dancers with their wits about >> them) have dynamic radii--as in, you can have your arms fully spread when >> you have room, or you can tighten in your elbows when you don't. With >> experienced dancers you keep 'weight' the same in both of these >> configurations: (I say both but of course it can be anywhere along this >> spectrum.) >> [image: image.png] >> red stars = dancers, green = their arms, with green dot = the held hands >> >> So in ECD all couples can two-hand turn in the middle with a tight >> radius, and no collisions. >> >> (anyone who dances ECD more than me should definitely correct me here!) >> >> On Fri, Apr 14, 2023 at 5:58 PM Winston, Alan P. via Contra Callers < >> contracallers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote: >> >>> Hi, John. >>> >>> I do think it's interesting that (North American) contra rules are that >>> both couples swinging in the middle at once is too crowded, but (North >>> American) ECD is totally fine with everybody doing two-hand turns (which >>> have a bigger radius) at once, and a Community Dances Manual dance like "Up >>> the Sides and Down the Middle" is fine with having five couples swinging in >>> the middle at once. ECD typically uses up more space than contra (my rule >>> of thumb is 30sqft per dancer for ECD, 24 for contra, partly because ECD >>> does fall back, come forward and contra does forward and back) but how >>> different in size can sets formed by hands four, sometimes by the same >>> dancers, be? >>> >>> -- Alan >>> >>> >>> >>> ________________________________________ >>> From: John Sweeney via Contra Callers < >>> contracallers@lists.sharedweight.net> >>> Sent: Friday, April 14, 2023 3:48 PM >>> To: contracallers@lists.sharedweight.net >>> Subject: [Callers] Re: Does P swings (across set) work for you? >>> >>> Hi Emily, >>> You say, “Can get away with in in longways dances but contras are a bit >>> tighter”. Hmm… contras ARE longways dances! How much space you need >>> depends on the dance, not the genre. A dance like Bases Loaded is a >>> contra, but definitely needs a bit more space up and down the room. >>> >>> Happy dancing, >>> John >>> >>> John Sweeney, Dancer, England j...@modernjive.com 01233 625 362 & >>> 07802 940 574 >>> http://www.contrafusion.co.uk for Dancing in Kent >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Contra Callers mailing list -- contracallers@lists.sharedweight.net >>> To unsubscribe send an email to >>> contracallers-le...@lists.sharedweight.net >>> >> >> >> -- >> Allison Jonjak >> allisonjon...@gmail.com >> allisonjonjak.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Contra Callers mailing list -- contracallers@lists.sharedweight.net >> To unsubscribe send an email to >> contracallers-le...@lists.sharedweight.net >> > _______________________________________________ > Contra Callers mailing list -- contracallers@lists.sharedweight.net > To unsubscribe send an email to contracallers-le...@lists.sharedweight.net >
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