New subject line because Dale’s comment reminded me of a question that’s been 
on my mind: what are some favorite dances, sequences, or figures that are 
slightly challenging for experienced dancers but don’t register as 
preferentially more challenging for beginners? 

In other words, these are movements that play off our biases/expectations from 
years of dancing, but are not actually technically complex. 

Some examples: 
- pretty much any well-structures circle right
- there’s a dance I have that does a left-hand pull by up/down the set directly 
out of a R-L through courtesy turn, which I think qualifies. 

I find these occasionally useful for dances with lots of beginners, but which 
also have a small group of experienced dancers who happen to be there. Does 
anyone else have ideas that fit this theme?

Sargon

> On Sep 14, 2023, at 13:29, Dale Wilson via Contra Callers 
> <contracallers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
> 
> 
> Jeff says:
> I'll bite that bullet: callers generally shouldn't be calling a dolphin hey 
> at a regular evening dance.
> 
> And Amy says:
> 
> It always helps to read the room first. Got a bunch of beginners? Call 
> simpler dances, at least the first half. Explain them well. Don't call a 
> complicated move that will discourage them. You want them to return, right? 
> Baby steps, then walking, then jogging, then dolphin heys. 
> 
> So I say:
> 
> Exactly right, Amy.  I always have a challenging dance on tap ready to call 
> toward the middle of the second half of the evening.   If there are too many 
> beginners (including our perpetual beginners) when the time comes, I simply 
> skip the challenging dance.  If the walk-thru doesn't go well, I'm ready with 
> an easy replacement.  But when it works our experienced dancers love 
> conquering a [small] challenge -- at least that's what they tell me later.
> 
> Dale
> 
> 
> 
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