Once again, I'm with Seth.

On Thu, Jun 12, 2025 at 4:23 PM Tepfer, Seth via Contra Callers <
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> First or second dance of the night.
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jun 12, 2025, at 4:05 PM, Lisa Sieverts via Contra Callers <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
> 
>
> Great answers, thank you for replying so quickly.
>
> Is this a good first dance of the evening? Last dance? Somewhere in the
> middle?
>
> Let me know what you think.
>
> Lisa
> Nelson, NH
>
> Lisa Sieverts
> 603-762-0235
> [email protected]
>
> On 12 Jun 2025, at 15:50, Winston, Alan P. wrote:
>
> Hi, Lisa, et al.
>
> Karen Missavage (as was; she's Karen Dunnam now) posted on
> rec.folk-dancing in 1999.
> ------------------------------
>
> Favors the Rose (aka The Fan Dance)
> Formation: Line of gents on one side of hall, line of ladies on the other.
>
> Your honored person (costume contest winner? the President? the host?) is
> placed at the top of the set in the middle, and presented with the favor.
> (Fake
> roses work well, and are more durable than a fan. This weekend we'll be
> using a
> plastic pumpkin.) Two people of the complimentary gender leave their line
> and
> stand on either side of the victi--I mean, the first whatever. S/he
> assesses
> the two others, makes a decision, and hands the favor to the first
> runner-up.
> The selected one and the selector dance down the set, and join their
> respective
> lines. The FRU steps to the center of the set, and the process is repeated
> for
> the other gender.
> The CW people go nuts over this. It's the only dance some of the younger &
> shyer ones will do. I usually tell them that under no circumstances may
> they
> toss the favor to the third person in line and then take the top four
> people,
> so this puts the idea in their heads. Sometimes there is pantomined
> pleading,
> down on one knee, sweeping hat gestures, outrageous flirting (fanning,
> ankle
> displays). A couple weeks ago a woman took a look at the guy on the left,
> then
> the one on the right. She tossed the flower up in the air and ran away from
> them down the set! Yours truly has been known to abscond with a handsome
> soldier, or the favor-holder.
> This can be a work-out for the band, but it's a nice break from calling and
> instructing and teaching. N.B. do not bring out three chairs for them to
> sit
> in. They get too comfy and it takes too long.
> --Karen M.
> in Ann Arbor
>
> Here's a video Karen posted in 2020:
> https://pie.yt/?v=https://youtu.be/9LBLZejhpnU?si=X38-ALXBLts5p5yo&pieshare=1
> ------------------------------
>
> Here's what Neil Schein posted on this list in 2023:
>
> Favor of the Rose
> -Line up three chairs and get a rose (or whatever).
> -Form two lines of people, one on either side (any criteria, inequal is 💯
> fine).
> -Position the bride or groom in the middle chair and give them the rose.
> -Bring two people from one line and have them sit. Center person gives
> rose to one, dances up center with the other.
> -Remaining person moves to center chair. Repeat, alternating lines.
>
> To answer your question:
>
> There is no set tune, there is no timing, there is no phrasing. Have the
> band play something lively that won't wear them out becauses it might go on
> a long time - I'd thikn they could do a medley they'd use for a contra
> dance, or whatever they like. Crooked tunes are okay.
>
> I don't think this dance is really a dance in the sense you're thinking
> of. It's a game.
> (That is, there's hardly any figures and there's not necessarily any set
> timing, depending on the crowd.). It's more of an improv opportunity where
> the people at the head of the line try to get the one holding the token to
> choose them.
>
> If you want it to be strict timing and very active, you can get people
> doing the whole thing in 8 bars (seen in the video, I think.). If it's a
> playful crowd and they want to goof with "choose me!", etc, etc, phrasing
> goes completely to hell and you as caller may have to urge them to make a
> decision.
>
> I've only called it a couple of times, for CIvil War dances. And it turned
> out that the reenactors around here had no tradition of doing it and didn't
> want to do do drama or improv, so we got htings moving pretty fast. At 8
> bars a time,; you can do it a lot of times. If I were doing it now for a
> wedding / ONS etc - here in the SF Bay Area, where all our contras are
> "larks and robins" I would really consider the crowd if I were going to do
> it at all, and I'd strongly consider whether the business of lining up
> gender-presentations should really be a thing.
>
> -- Alan
> ------------------------------
>
> From: Lisa Sieverts via Contra Callers
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> Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2025 11:55 AM
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> Subject: [Callers] How to run The Fan Dance?
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> Hi all,
>
> I’m doing a wedding anniversary dance in a week and I think The Fan Dance
> would be good. But I can’t remember the details of how it goes.
>
> I’m thinking of the dance where there are three chairs in a row and two
> lines of people. One person sits in the middle chair, and one from either
> line sits next to them. The middle person holds a fan or other chotke. The
> middle person chooses one person to give the fan to and then dances with
> the other person.
>
> But what’s the timing and what kind of music? I used to do this a lot when
> I lived in Idaho but haven’t called it in eons.
>
> Thank you!
> Lisa
> Nelson, NH
>
> Lisa Sieverts
> 603-762-0235
> [email protected]
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