Yeah, I remember a dance where about 20 foreign exchange students with limited 
English from - Turkey, I think? showed up at the dance, just before the lesson 
thankfully. Whoa! I did as you suggested, introduced them to the whole group 
and asked for their help. Everyone really stepped up. One additional thing I 
did was NEVER during that night to vary my calling. I usually switch it up, 
saying “Robins allemande right” for a bit, or “Robins right” or just plain 
“Allemande” or “look for that robin and allemande” etc. to make it a little 
less repetitive, but in this case I never varied what I called a move, ever. 
(Though that was actually way before larks and robins - but same idea, no 
variance). Oh, and yeah, my program went out  the window and I called my old 
standby “Ellen’s Green Jig” first and went from there. It all worked out 
surprisingly well, thanks to a lot of help from the experienced dancers. They 
had a great time, which was very rewarding  to watch. 

Martha


> On Aug 6, 2025, at 9:24 PM, Joe Harrington via Contra Callers 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> As Randy Pausch said, if there's an elephant in the room, introduce it.  That 
> normalizes the situation and reduces social tension and confusion.  It 
> maximizes the help you'll get from your experienced dancers.  I'd also try to 
> set the newbies' expectations that this might not work out so easily, but 
> that's ok and they're wanted.  This is long because it's a script...
> 
> "Hey, we've got some new folks who just joined us. Welcome! Try to spread 
> yourselves out among us so we can all help you out. You'll get this quickest 
> if you partner with experienced dancers for the first few dances, and dance 
> with the one you brought later, but it's up to you.  If you came with someone 
> special and you're most comfortable dancing together, that's ok, too.  Also, 
> some folks really benefit from the workshop we give before the dances, so if 
> you find jumping in is a little too much right now, please give us another 
> try at 7pm before the next dance, and enjoy the live music and company as 
> long as you like today. We really want you here!  Would a few experienced 
> dancers raise their hands and dance with these fine folks?" 
> 
> In our group this leads to cheering, and sets the expectation on both sides 
> that people are going to be giving help.  One or more experienced couples 
> will split up and invite a newbie into their group or dance as a couple with 
> a newbie couple.  YMMV on this.  The first 90 minutes of our dance is 
> designated newbie dancing and we frequently split ourselves up to get with 
> newbies.  Conversely, the last 90 minutes is "loose the hounds".  If your 
> dancers expect to be challenged from the start, you may need a different 
> script.
> 
> Then...
> 
> "Folks, I'm going to walk this one through a little thoroughly, which should 
> help anyone who is new tonight. Experienced dancers, please stay with me and 
> don't get ahead or give extra advice, but do work with the new dancers to 
> help them get it.  And please, let's not chatter.  Your investment of 
> patience will bear fruit shortly!" [Again, setting expectations, being 
> inviting to everyone, trying to get them to see the benefit of creating the 
> best learning environment.]
> 
> Then, ditch whatever dance you were planning, and call Midwest Folklore, 
> Airpants, Easy Peasy, etc., something with a low piece count, connected, 
> simple figures, simple progression, recovery moves.  And yeah, teach the 
> swing.  Oof, that takes time.  Or, have them do a two-hands-across or elbow 
> swing.  The important thing there will be remembering to exit on the same 
> side as they entered.  If necessary, progress twice at the start, as was 
> mentioned.
> 
> Something similar just happened to us last Friday.  TWENTY new dancers came 
> as a group, an entire social club.  We knew some of them and had been 
> encouraging them to come for some months, but we had no idea they were coming 
> that day, and our dance is usually only 20-25 people.  And, it was caller Sam 
> Sharpless's second night of calling, ever.  They did come for the workshop, 
> and Sam did great with them, there, but still, some of them were...going to 
> take a few evenings of dance before walking on the beat made sense to them.  
> Sam and the gang really stepped up!  Sam blew up the first half of his 
> program and called super-easy dances.  All the experienced dancers danced 
> with newbies.  We joked with our 4th timers, asking them how it felt to be 
> one of the most experienced in the room. Sam gave some careful and very 
> encouraging walkthroughs.  It worked, even with often 3 newbies per minor 
> set.  The best news is, this group said a few days later that they're coming 
> back next week!
> 
> --jh--
> 
> 
> On Wed, Aug 6, 2025 at 10:43 AM Perry Shafran via Contra Callers 
> <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> Hi, everyone,
>> 
>> This happens more often than you'd think.  My solutions are thus:
>> 
>> First, I do not like demanding new couples split up right away.  I know that 
>> technically that would be effective to help people out.  But ostensibly, 
>> these people came to the dance to dance with the people they came with.  
>> Thus instead of making it a demand, I say I "highly suggest" that people 
>> dance with experienced dancers.  But I really want them to have them have 
>> the ability to choose their own partners.  Thus, I allow them to dance with 
>> each other if they would prefer.  You *may* want to split up hands four, 
>> though, since a couple will not be able to dance with the other couple 
>> that's their friends right away.  And arrange them so they are not spit out 
>> right away after 1 or 2 turns.  
>> 
>> A more in-depth walk through for the first dance is warranted.  Have a dance 
>> with a neighbor swing before a partner swing, so they can get an experienced 
>> dancer guiding them.  If you do have a chain, have people chain to their 
>> neighbor for that guidance as well.  
>> 
>> And quite honestly, allow them to sink or swim after that.  It'll never be 
>> perfect no matter how hard you try, and they aren't going to "get it" right 
>> away.   Allow them to move, bop, have swings that are not smooth.  In fact, 
>> please advise the experienced dancers to show them how it's done, but ask 
>> them not to spend oodles of time trying to perfect the swing in the middle 
>> of a walk through.  That takes forever and makes the swing look way more 
>> difficult as move than it ought to be, and it delays the whole dance 
>> unnecessarily.  
>> 
>> Above all, instill confidence in the new dancers that this is fun, you can 
>> do it, and as long as you're having fun you're OK.  Anything to make the 
>> dancers feel that they need extra help has the potential for them to think 
>> that they don't belong there or aren't good enough to dance with the 
>> experienced crowd.  
>> 
>> Truthfully, I recall the days where many callers have suggested that 
>> "lessons make people believe the dance is hard" and believed that dancing 
>> should be so easy that anyone can walk in and dance and no lesson is needed. 
>>  We as a dance community have made dancing a little more difficult than that 
>> (and truthfully, it's not all *that* easy for a lot of people who have never 
>> done this before to figure out), so allow some grace and allow for mistakes. 
>>  Like, I think it took me a good 6 months of contra dancing before I really 
>> "got it" when I was starting.  
>> 
>> Perry Shafran
>> 
>> On Tuesday, August 5, 2025 at 12:08:11 PM EDT, Gregory Frock via Contra 
>> Callers <[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Dear Colleagues,
>> 
>> Here's the scenario: You are finishing up a new dancers' lesson, and will be 
>> starting the dance in a few minutes. In walks a significant number (say 6+) 
>> of newbies, all friends who want to dance together. Besides the two most 
>> common solutions, lower the difficulty and insist they NOT do the first 
>> couple of dances together, does anyone have an additional creative/elegant 
>> solution, enhancement actions to make the basics more effective, or 
>> important issues for consideration that are commonly missed?
>> 
>> Greg
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