On Tue, Jan 23, 2018 at 5:03 AM, Sam Hague <sha...@redhat.com> wrote:

> On Mon, Jan 22, 2018 at 9:30 PM, Tom Pantelis <tompante...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Jan 22, 2018 at 9:26 PM, Michael Vorburger <vorbur...@redhat.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, Jan 22, 2018 at 7:17 PM, Michael Vorburger <vorbur...@redhat.com
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jan 18, 2018 at 5:25 PM, Tom Pantelis <tompante...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Jan 18, 2018 at 10:45 AM, Michael Vorburger <
>>>>> vorbur...@redhat.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 12:29 PM, Michael Vorburger <
>>>>>> vorbur...@redhat.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 8:10 PM, Michael Vorburger <
>>>>>>> vorbur...@redhat.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> almost 3 months ago, on https://lists.opendaylight.
>>>>>>>> org/pipermail/controller-dev/2017-September/013889.html, I had
>>>>>>>> started a thread re. the mysterious problems hit in the controller
>>>>>>>> archetype "self test", which occured on Gerrit and Jenkins, and only 
>>>>>>>> there
>>>>>>>> (it worked locally even 3 months ago).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Today I finally made time to progress on this, and
>>>>>>>> https://jira.opendaylight.org/browse/CONTROLLER-1799 has the write
>>>>>>>> up what is going on there, documented for future reference.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Is this feasible to get an odlparent 3.0.2 with
>>>>>>>> https://git.opendaylight.org/gerrit/#/c/65940/ for
>>>>>>>> https://git.opendaylight.org/gerrit/#/c/65941/ ?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Tx,
>>>>>>>> M.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> PS: I'm hoping to work on https://jira.opendaylight.org/
>>>>>>>> browse/INFRAUTILS-17 in the coming days, which will likely also
>>>>>>>> require a change in odlparent; perhaps this and that could be pooled
>>>>>>>> together into a 3.0.2 - anything else?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://git.opendaylight.org/gerrit/#/c/66030/ and its related
>>>>>>> changes are what I meant here; if all of this, together with
>>>>>>> https://git.opendaylight.org/gerrit/#/c/65940/, could be released
>>>>>>> as an odlparent 3.0.2, in the hopefully not-too-distant future, that 
>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>> be fabulous.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> would any fellow controller commiter be willing to merge this
>>>>>> https://git.opendaylight.org/gerrit/#/c/65941/ now?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tom, or even I volunteer to, then rebase https://git.opendayligh
>>>>>> t.org/gerrit/#/c/66545/ on top of that c/65941 and then I'm happy to
>>>>>> merge that one after.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It would be good to get both of these archetype things into Oxygen
>>>>>> still IMHO.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Agree - I rebased - will merge after
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> just done, but hit https://jira.opendaylight.org/browse/CONTROLLER-1810
>>>> .. following the Big Bump, the Archetype IT is actually broken.. seems to
>>>> have something to do with some (shutdown related?) problem in AAA ? Don't
>>>> be shy to comment on CONTROLLER-1810 if you have any clue what could be
>>>> causing that.
>>>>
>>>
>>>> I'm hoping to merge https://git.opendaylight.org/gerrit/#/c/66545/
>>>> with that @Ignore ASAP anyway, if nobody has any objections; we can then
>>>> subsquently remove the @Ignore in the archetype IT, when CONTROLLER-1810 is
>>>> sorted.
>>>>
>>>
>>> FYI https://git.opendaylight.org/gerrit/#/c/66545/ is now finally
>>> merged, but without IT; in addition to https://jira.opendaylight.o
>>> rg/browse/CONTROLLER-1810 there seems to be a second (new?) problem
>>> with the IT of the archetype, detailed in https://jira.opendaylight.o
>>> rg/browse/CONTROLLER-1811.
>>>
>>> What are people's views re. ditching the IT and/or CLI (suggested by Sam
>>> & Tom) from the archetype?
>>>
>>
>> I think we should keep the startup archetype simple/basic and have an
>> advanced archetype that has the extra fluff IT, CLI etc.
>>
> That's a good idea. This gets the basic users moving forward much easier.
> And if they really want something more than can run the advanced version.
>

That works for me too. Not ditch/remove the IT and/or CLI, but move into an
"advanced" archetype.

Because the current archetype is well known, let us keep that one as the
existing basic one?

I wonder if we shold have a new "full" archetype, which would duplicate
stuff from the basic (shame.. won't be keep consistent), or we could have
something which augments / adds the IT and CLI to an existing basic
archetype?
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