Hi Robert, 

Slightly orthogonal question delving more into overheads 

Would the overhead not be higher than just trivially marginal on the backend 
for a transaction ?

In other words, the moment newXYZTransaction is created, proxy, context, 
snapshot, txn-actors and other related objects get initiated at the backend - 
is it not ? 

And an empty Op list of transaction is inferred only during  submit call and 
all of above initializations will straight away be garbaged right ? 

If the "NOOP" type txn count is far lesser, then the pressure of such garbage 
would not be higher but OTOH, if this NOOP txn semantics is misused, their 
count could become humongous and hence corresponding unnecessary garbage and 
subsequent collection cycles - is it not ?

Am I missing something in context of laziness / eagerness with which all 
backend objects (heavy / light) created in  context of each txn ?

Regards
Muthu


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[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Robert Varga
Sent: Friday, July 27, 2018 5:25 PM
To: Anil Vishnoi <[email protected]>; Michael Vorburger 
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Cc: controller-dev <[email protected]>; 
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Subject: Re: [controller-dev] [mdsal-dev] Does commiting a transaction with no 
operations have any noteworthy (real life) overhead compared to cancelling it?

On 27/07/18 11:41, Anil Vishnoi wrote:
> 
>     My initial reaction is that such an optimization in
>     ManagedNewTransactionRunner is probably pointless as whatever
>     happens behind the scenes on a commit is surely already smart enough
>     by itself for a submit on an empty transaction to basically be a low
>     overhead NOOP anyway?
> 
> ​Or if transaction API can expose some api like isEmpty() (just 
> example), that can come bit handy here?

I don't think the benefit of such a method justifies additional state tracking 
required to support it.

Regards,
Robert

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