The vga16 server is bailing out on me again. it's the same error from before. "no defined dot-clock matching mode 640x480" then "No valid modes found". It's a Ati all in a wonder pro AGP model, detects as "PCI: ATI Mach64 GT PRO rev 92" -- MandrakeSoft http://www.mandrakesoft.com/ --Axalon