already tried it. Liked the question mark. observations: 1)I used beginner install from hard drive 2)Beginner installs allot of stuff. Maybe to much (about 700Megs). For instance, should a beginner have a telnet server installed by default. Also should the man pages for Spanish, etc. be installed when the language i choose for default is English. 3)After install all I got was LI. So I booted with a floppy and the vmlinuz symlink is pointing to 2.3.13-2mdk. This shouldn't be the default Should it? Also i didn't select hacker kernel which means it too was installed by default by the beginner install. 4)Netscape still doesn't work. 5)The system no longer recognized my modem. And i did select the ppp package. Then I reinstalled with ncurses (I need my modem to work) and all I got was unresolved dependencies with pgc-c++ and sane. Thanks for all the hard work its coming along nicely. -- ~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~- Holiness unto the Lord, He must increase, but I must decrease Brook Humphrey Owner, Mobile PC Medic webmaster, www.thelinuxstop.com webmaster, www.webmedic.net