finaly finsihed with all the updates last night and did the install today. the install went without a hitch except for an erounous "bad file rootfiles-6.2-6mdk.noarch.rpm" in console 3 during the install of packages I just tested and installed manuly and it worked fine. chose expert install and server class manuly selected the packages (relized after that it unslected some of them since I was over the space limit with the slide bar) chose security high install finsihed , computer reboots.. system boots fine... that is when the fun starts. it boots using the sercure kernel. after loging in I relised that I obviously set the security level too high cause once I loged in and tried to start gnome with a normal user acount I get a simple xterm and nothing else. I fidled around with some stuff and manged to get it to work but I am not sure that I am doing it quite right because I went to /etc/security/msec/init-m/custom.sh after turning off some of the options are working kinda. /usr/bin is still unreadable even after running level0 script. I have to manuly change it. other strange things are happing now in the latest install. Lots of files are unreadable as normal user even after turning on level0 also there is no checkpromisc.sh script I get e-mails as root over and over telling me this am I missing something there are other strange things. but I will not go into them now..