I would like to see a version of just about anything that doesn't have some
upgrades or patches available by the time you get it home.
Try Windoze any flavor...try a virus software...MS Office, Corel Office
2000, and just about anything else you can think of. Some don't even have
the patches for the problems yet...they are working on them.
I had to download a 40meg update to Corel Office 2000 when I bought it just
to make it work without crashing while doing some things. But at least it
was available.
And Mandrake is constantly coming up with ways to do it better. There will
always be patches. You will see it with RedHat too...the Samba and
Linuxconf were basically broken out of the box for certain
applications...but they did have an update.
I am not saying this is right or wrong...but it is the way it is. There
will always be things that need tweaking.
Thanks Mandrake and all the Beta/Alpha Testers!
Bambi
----- Original Message -----
From: "Frederic Soulier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2000 5:08 AM
Subject: [Cooker] I am puzzled by people's behaviour...
> Well, nice start for a Wednesday morning, mailbox full of shity
> emails from *not very nice so called disatisfied* customer and
> frankly I am disgusted by their behaviour.
>
> Ok, the final 7.2 version you bought is missing some updates
> present in the downloadable version and you think you are
> screwed... fair enough but why so much anger towards the guys
> at Mdk?
> What is so difficult in using Mdk-update to get your installation
> updated with the packages from the Mdk 7.2 download edition?
> Do you need a university degree to do that? Does it ruin your
> day because you have to download a few megabytes of data?
> What is your pbm?
>
> The guys at Mandrake go out of their way to provide everybody
> with a great linux distro, they listen to all of us when we
> bitch about packages missing or when we ask them to package
> more programs and so on. And you know what, they do it because
> they're a nice bunch of developers dedicated to linux and its
> success.
> As a matter of fact, they also need to bring the bacon back
> home so to speak and for that very valid reason they also
> need to make money and sell their stuff.
> (something else I want to point out is that it seems to me
> that more and more people see the *free software* as *free
> beer* not *free speech* and I am worried about that,
> anyway that's not the point here...)
> We all would like to pay a dirt cheap price for the perfect
> product, bug free that does everything and more with free
> support... but that does not exist even in the Linux world.
>
> The pbm is mandrakesoft is a victim of its openness, they
> tell us to much and we still bitch about it. Not so long
> ago we bitched about M$ for not telling us anything, like
> "we put alpha quality software in our windows crap".
> We put updates whenever it pleases us and we do not care
> if our product is full of fucking security holes! And we
> charge you an arm and a leg for all that crap!
> How on earth can you come even remotely close to comparing
> Mandrakesoft to M$?!?!?
> You're upset? Ok, calm down, get a cup of coffee then try
> to rationalize your situation... then click on the
> "Mandrake Update" icon... then just come back on this list
> and tell everybody how great this distro is 8-)
> I hope good decisions will come out of this minor (?)
> tragedy and that lessons will be learned for the future.
>
> Linux distro will always be more up-to-date by downloading
> them instead of buying a packaged version for the simple
> reason the work to do to put a downloadable version is so
> much simpler than for a retail version. That's a fact, just
> accept it.
>
> OK, now I need to think about some serious business which
> is to find a ftp site to download 7.2 :-) can't wait.
>
> *************
>
> The idea about being able to give a donation online to support
> Mandrakesoft is a great idea. I would definitely be willing to
> give some money for a download version.
>
> Also keep up the superb work you have doing so far. Maybe just
> make sure next year you do not plan a release too close to the
> Walmart deadline :-)
>
> Fred "very happy to use whatever flavor of Mandrake distro"
>
> --
> Frederic Soulier [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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