Hi guys,
I hope you don't misunderstand, but people are getting quite confused
because the packages are too bloated. I'm not complaining, this is just a
compilation of suggestions. For example: there are 6 e-mail clients in 7.2: nmh,
exmh, pine, mutt, balsa, etc and I personally believe that it's just too much.
Then there are 3 news clients (excluding gnome & kde's): tin, xrn, slrn, etc.
Having 2 choices are good enough. Then there are 10 or more editors that have
the same function: GXEdit, gedit, nedit, yudit, latte etc... why :-( Then
there are several IDEs, but the only **usable** one, IMHO, is only XWPE - both
for X-Window and console. There are packages like xmame, xmess, Basilski
(those are emulators that almost only 2% of the populations that use them and the
extracted RPM size is large!). Then there are 3 dhcp client : dhcp-client,
dhcpxd, dhcpcd. Which one is the most usable and the one that has more
features? I know Chmouel have explained that some of them don't work, so... can we
choose only 1 instead? Do people really need Dosemu and XDosEmu still? I don't
know... I don't think so. Then there are weird developmental languages like
ghc, happy, hugs98, mercury, whatever and most programmers only use:
C++/C/Objective C, Perl, LISP, Fortran (for compatibility with old unix apps) and
some in Pascal. That's the large percentage of language used, but stuff like
ruby and whatsoever :=( .... Then the quality of packages like
/usr/X11R6/bin/ico <- what kind of a joke program is it? I know they're from
X11R6-contrib...
but still it's really useless..
I'll send a diff to Pixel for rpmrate tonight.. there are some missing stuff
(not rated) there too..
The more RPM packages that we have, the more:
1) User will think that Mandrake is bloated, just like this guy said here:
http://linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2001-03-09-016-04-SC-MD-0000
2) The more security vulnerability. This will damage our reputation. Just
eliminate Zope ( > 5 security vulnerability in the last 3 months!) , throw it
away. We really don't need a very low performance Zope. Zope is very slow
compared to PHP, and it's quite resource hog.
3) The less the packages the better we can concentrate & focus on
optimizations, speed, and security.
Trim down stuff that are not going to be used by people, such as xrn, slrn,
etc. Or.... :-(
I don't know, this problem is just getting to complex and it seems it can't
be denied that unless developers decide to really trim it down, it's gonna be
a super bloatware.
Am I making sense here?
Prana
> On Sat, 10 Mar 2001, Alexander Skwar wrote:
>
> > So sprach Prana am Sat, Mar 10, 2001 at 09:06:57AM -0500:
> > > Why is there 2 bootloaders? Lilo and Grub?
> >
> > Because some people like to use lilo, as hard as this is imaginable.
> And
> > the rest sticks with grub.
> >
>
> Why is it hard to imagine? After searching for half an hour and having
> found NO usable grub documentation, I decided I can just as well forget
> it.
>
> -andrej
>
>
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